Will Smith v Chris Rock

Zoophonic said:
Arguably the Oscars have never been about the most popular films. Jaws, Star Wars and Close Encounters were never nominated In the 70s for example.
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I'm thinking more back to the 50s and 60s when there were less films anyway, so the oscar nominees were generally the most popular by default.
 
BoroMart said:
yup, I think that's the post. He embarrassed himself and his wife by reacting like he did
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They are debating on 5 live now whether Smith should have his award rescinded. I don’t know whether It’s over reaction or actually Smith committed a serious assault in front of watching millions.
 
BoroMart said:
I'm thinking more back to the 50s and 60s when there were less films anyway, so the oscar nominees were generally the most popular by default.
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And even then if you look at many of the winners in those days they went to films that either you won’t have seen or ever heard of! Alfred Hitchcock made some of the most popular films of the 50s and 60s but never won an academy award.
 
I never really understand award ceremonies. People getting back slapped by their fellow professionals (in any industry) for doing their job? Not for me thanks.

As for the kerfuffle with Rock and Smith. I think Smith embarrassed himself and compounded it with a teary speech soon after. Rock was definitely wrong trying to joke about a health condition but there's better ways to react to it.
 
Zoophonic said:
Agree. The film industry is currently saturated with action film brain dead computer generated nonsense for the masses. Takings at the box office are certainly not the barometer of how good a film is.
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Is it popular to dislike popular things? People have their own tastes and the majority of the world population would choose the latest Avengers film over Belfast for example so I'd say takings at box office is a very good barometer and also sales down the line.
 
It's the only thing anyone is talking about. You'd say it's taken the shine off his moment of actually winning an Oscar.

Also agree a truly bigger 'statement' would have been not to go up and collect unless Rock apologised live on stage.
 
It was a strange situation, I can't say I blame him for reacting to the joke when it was clear it had upset his wife, but you shouldn't be hitting people.

Didn't feel real though, it's funny that it's the swearing that's convinced everyone.
 
It did all look like a Fast Show sketch (the John Thompson and Caroline Ahern one), with the way Smith laughs and then sees that his Mrs isn't laughing.
 
Zoophonic said:
Formulaic, money spinning film making and technically brilliant but I can’t remember one from the other. The musical scores are great though. Thanks to Hans Zimmer who won the Oscar overnight for Dune.
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They're definitely not formulaic. One of the reasons they're so popular is because they're inventive and try different things.

Many thought Guardians of the Galaxy was ridiculously bold. Not a well known comic and featuring a talking raccoon and talking tree. It could have gone very wrong. Yet it's one of the best films they made and one of the best sci-fi films of the last decade at least.

Black Panther speaks for itself

Winter soldier is more a spy thriller than anything else.

Ragnarok isn't far off being an outright comedy.

Most of the films they try and do something different with. Not to mention trying to hang it all together in one shared universe. Nothing had ever been done on that scale before.

Some of the criticism is valid, they can be cheesy at times, they can be far fetched (but then superheroes so duh) and some of them have fallen flat obviously.

But formulaic? Not remotely. I think they've done an incredible job in terms of ambition and trying new things.

For Hollywood action blockbusters most of them are as good as it gets.
 
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