The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

Billy Horner said:
I don't know to be honest. I doubt it's lockdown related, because I think Wales were/are stricter than England so, if anything, you'd expect them to have much lower figures.

Looking at the number of positive tests for the same period, England had 4,193 cases whilst Wales only had 75. Come to think of it, that means that Wales had almost six times more hospital admissions than they had cases!

Something definitely not right here.
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Those in hospitals in Wales have fallen from 177 to 131 in the last week with 9 on ventilation. The figures look sensible compared with England. If they've had over 400 admissions, some are only in for less than a day!
 
GazC_MFC said:
Sounds like a correction of data would explain in maybe
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bear66 said:
Those in hospitals in Wales have fallen from 177 to 131 in the last week with 9 on ventilation. The figures look sensible compared with England. If they've had over 400 admissions, some are only in for less than a day!
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Yes, the more I'm looking at these figures, the more convinced I am that they're wrong.

According to the data, the 7-day average for hospital admissions in Wales has fallen 58% from the peak number in April. That compares with a 96% fall in England, 98% fall in Northern Ireland and a 99.5% fall in Scotland.
 
Billy Horner said:
Yes, the more I'm looking at these figures, the more convinced I am that they're wrong.

According to the data, the 7-day average for hospital admissions in Wales has fallen 58% from the peak number in April. That compares with a 96% fall in England, 98% fall in Northern Ireland and a 99.5% fall in Scotland.
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I wonder if someone attends with possible symptoms is counted as a Covid-19 admission. Most of these will be sent home that day as they're not serious enough to be admitted and to await the results of a test.
 
bear66 said:
I wonder if someone attends with possible symptoms is counted as a Covid-19 admission. Most of these will be sent home that day as they're not serious enough to be admitted and to await the results of a test.
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I doubt it's even that to be honest, looks like an accounting error of sorts
 
bear66 said:
As of 5pm on 15 July, of those tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, 45,119 have died across all settings.

Deaths reported in all settings were 66.

642 new positive cases with 151 Pillar 1.
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Is that low for a Thursday or part of a new midweek dip cycle?
 
There does seem to be a consistently larger reduction in deaths of late. Not sure if it is because we are consistently below 100 and that is an emotional barrier or not.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 642 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 538
• 7-day average for new cases remains unchanged at 584 per day, following 2.2% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 5.2% higher than one week ago (from 7.0% higher yesterday) and 28.3% lower than two weeks ago (from 34.5% lower yesterday and 47.9% lower 7 days ago)
• 66 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, down from 85 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 3.5% to 77 per day, following 7.1% decrease yesterday (and 8th decrease in the past 9 days)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 15.0% lower than one week ago (from 12.4% lower yesterday) and 32.4% lower than two weeks ago (from 35.0% lower yesterday and 27.0% lower 7 days ago)
 
I'm sensing the media have changed tack from reporting the death rate to getting in a tizzy about the increase in cases neglecting to explain why.
 
I guess we are all hoping that the slight plateau, slight increases in infections doesn't result in an increase in mortality. At the minute we are all outdoors and getting plenty of sunshine, maybe that is it.
 
RandySavage said:
Estimates?

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Yes. Official gov.uk announcement. They've clearly given up with PHE.

"The Secretary of State has today, 17 July, asked PHE to urgently review their estimation of daily death statistics. Currently the daily deaths measure counts all people who have tested positive for coronavirus and since died, with no cut-off between time of testing and date of death. There have been claims that the lack of cut-off may distort the current daily deaths number. We are therefore pausing the publication of the daily figure while this is resolved."
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 687 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 642
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 4.3% to 609 per day, following 0.0% change yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 10.6% higher than one week ago (from 5.2% higher yesterday) and 18.7% lower than two weeks ago (from 28.3% lower yesterday and 45.9% lower 7 days ago)
• 114 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, up from 66 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings increases by 12.8% to 83 per day, following 3.5% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 12.3% higher than one week ago (from 15.0% lower yesterday) and 18.8% lower than two weeks ago (from 32.4% lower yesterday and 38.5% lower 7 days ago)
 
bear66 said:
Yes. Official gov.uk announcement. They've clearly given up with PHE.

"The Secretary of State has today, 17 July, asked PHE to urgently review their estimation of daily death statistics. Currently the daily deaths measure counts all people who have tested positive for coronavirus and since died, with no cut-off between time of testing and date of death. There have been claims that the lack of cut-off may distort the current daily deaths number. We are therefore pausing the publication of the daily figure while this is resolved."
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ie he wants to fiddle the figures for deaths like he did for tests.
 
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