The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

newusername said:
It was discussed today that the term "pre-existing conditions" is slightly misleading, as not only can it be something they have before they get sick with say Covid, it can also just be a contributory factor to the death. So a lot of the death certificates are citing pneumonia & COPD as pre-existing conditions and it would be wrong to think that all these people were at deaths door with pneumonia & then caught Covid which pushed them over the edge. It is more likely that they were seriously ill with Covid and then developed symptoms consistent with pneumonia & COPD prior to dying, hence it is recorded on death certificate.

So the above table isn't a carte blanche for people under 40 with no obvious "pre-existing conditions" to do what they want.
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You articulated better what I was thinking Newusername. There is such a lot we just don't know, and I suspect quite a lot we are not being fully informed about.

Just look at the breadth of opinion on this board.
 
Back up to the 300 deaths a day mark :(

The continued steady rate of deaths just makes a mockery of the easing of lockdown restrictions. It simply isn't time yet.
 
ST, the numbers are coming down, but ever so slowly. We are going to have a very long tail, probably because the loosening of the lockdown.
 
As of 9am on 9 June, there have been 5,870,506 tests, with 102,930 tests on 8 June.

289,140 people have tested positive.

As of 5pm on 8 June, of those tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, across all settings, 40,883 have died.

0.45% increase in positives, but over half of these Pillar 1.
 
Laughing said:
ST, the numbers are coming down, but ever so slowly. We are going to have a very long tail, probably because the loosening of the lockdown.
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Exactly. the numbers are barely coming down, which, lest we forget, means a lot of preventable deaths every day. If a short haul plane crashed killing everyone on board, EVERY SINGLE DAY. People would stop flying, people would be c=screaming at authorities to do something. Here, the sam amount of extra people are dying EVERY DAY and people actually want to ease the lockdown right now
 
We do, I have got to th epoint where I will take any crumb of good news. I just want folks to not needlessly die. The sooner we can end lockdown and get back to normal, the less long term impact it will have on peoples lives.

My family are lucky I have worked right through lockdown from home. My wife doesn't need to work so has home schooled our daughter. I am very aware that not everybody is in as good a place as we are though. Some will be sufferring terribly, those who have lost loved ones, those whos incomes have been slashed or taken away completely.

So for those reasons it's any port in a storm to be quite frank.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 710 hospital reported infections in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 158
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections increases by 5.7%, following 6.6% decrease yesterday (and 33 consecutive daily decreases)
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections is 23.3% lower than one week ago (from 30.0% lower yesterday) and 52.4% lower than two weeks ago (from 57.5% lower yesterday and 52.2% lower 7 days ago)
• 286 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, up from 55 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 2.4%, following 3.5% decrease yesterday (and 4th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 19.3% lower than one week ago (from 7.9% lower yesterday) and 11.3% lower than two weeks ago (from 26.7% lower yesterday and 29.2% lower 7 days ago)
 
Some important notes on today's figures.

The number of hospital reported infections (Pillar 1) was the highest daily total for 10 days. This has resulted in an increase in the 7-day average for the first time in over a month.

The government also states that there were an additional 354 positive tests added to the total figures, but not the daily total, due to historical corrections. The explanatory notes suggest that these figures should have been included within yesterday's Pillar 1 positive numbers. Had they been included yesterday's Pillar 1 figures, the 7-day average would have increased for the past two days, which is something that hasn't happened since 11th April.

The 7-day average for deaths in all settings is all over the place. Compared to one week ago, the average is 19.3% lower, which is broadly consistent with the rate of decline we have seen since the peak in mid-April. However, compared with two weeks ago, the average is just 11.3% lower, which is the lowest rate of fortnightly decline we have seen since 24th April (and about a quarter of the rate we were experiencing two weeks ago).

I think there are two factors at play here. First, the death rate is undoubtedly remaining stubbornly high and these numbers are evidence of the very long tail which others have mentioned. Secondly, I think there is still a distortion in the figures as a result of the bank holiday two weeks ago so, hopefully, we should have a better idea of the true picture in the days ahead.
 
Our tail off seems to be more stubborn than other countries. I would think that may be in-line with our looser lockdown. It is maddingly frustrating and is exacting a toll in lives.
 
Pillar 1 and 2 still falling rapidly.. 20% of today's 88 NHS Englands deaths were without positive test.

It's nothing to do with loosening lockdown, you're just looking at the wrong figures.
 
As of 9am on 10 June, there have been 6,042,622 tests, with 170,379 tests on 9 June.

290,143 people have tested positive.

As of 5pm on 9 June, of those tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, across all settings, 41,128 have died.

0.3% increase in positive tests. Just 128 Pillar 1 today.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 126 hospital reported infections in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 710
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections decreases by 13.7%, following 5.7% increase yesterday
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections is 30.6% lower than one week ago (from 23.3% lower yesterday) and 57.4% lower than two weeks ago (from 52.4% lower yesterday and 52.0% lower 7 days ago)
• 245 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, down from 286 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 7.5%, following 2.4% decrease yesterday (and 5th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 23.2% lower than one week ago (from 19.3% lower yesterday) and 20.3% lower than two weeks ago (from 11.3% lower yesterday and 27.6% lower 7 days ago)
 
As of 9am on 11 June, there have been 6,240,801 tests, with 197,007 tests on 10 June.

291,409 people have tested positive.

As of 5pm on 10 June, of those tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, across all settings, 41,279 have died.

0.4% increase in positive tests today.
 
What's been the highest percentage increase in positive tests since you started doing these stats bear?
 
These figures look good. I'm guessing after the incubation period, which seems REALLY long for this virus, we'll see some of the death figures fall in similar patterns?
 
SmallTown said:
These figures look good. I'm guessing after the incubation period, which seems REALLY long for this virus, we'll see some of the death figures fall in similar patterns?
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Hopefully. Interestingly, the 15% lockdown increase was the same as the 0.4% figure today in actual positive tests. The difference is that mobility was high at that time but much lower today. We also have more information on where these infections are and are now contact tracing (sort of).
 
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