'Jonathan has my total support'

[McBrid]

I'm not disagreeing with you, and I also agree that there were better options out there.

Ultimately though, Gibson will not have truly wanted to make the Woodgate appointment. He made it because of the clubs' current financial position. Yes, we're in this position largely because of Gibsons' poor decision making, but not because of his lack of ambition.

But to come out and say that Woodgate was the best option out there is a joke in itself . He didn’t have to say that.

 

[atypical_boro]

I'm not disagreeing with you, and I also agree that there were better options out there.

Ultimately though, Gibson will not have truly wanted to make the Woodgate appointment. He made it because of the clubs' current financial position. Yes, we're in this position largely because of Gibsons' poor decision making, but not because of his lack of ambition.

I don't really see how Woodgate is so much of a better financial appointment than others? He won't be working for free, will he be cheaper than someone like Pearson? Maybe, but we're not so skint we couldn't have afforded a manager with some experience. We interviewed Jokanovic remember, other managers wouldn't have been anywhere near as expensive.

 

[Pog]

I'm not disagreeing with you, and I also agree that there were better options out there.

Ultimately though, Gibson will not have truly wanted to make the Woodgate appointment. He made it because of the clubs' current financial position. He will have known he was taking a gamble at the time, but I think he probably over-estimated the quality of our squad, and felt we'd definitely have enough to survive.

Yes, we're in this position largely because of Gibsons' poor decision making, but not because of his lack of ambition.

It’s not like Gibson hasn’t previously turned down experienced, quality managers in favour of rookies to satisfy his ideology.

“Middlesbrough on the Rhine” anyone?

 

[atypical_boro]

It’s not like Gibson hasn’t previously turned down experienced, quality managers in favour of rookies to satisfy his ideology.

“Middlesbrough on the Rhine” anyone?

I didn't think his appointment of Southgate was 'wrong' so to speak but he should have sacked him when we had a fighting chance of staying up.

Judging by how Felix Magath's PL career turned out, I'm not sure it would have been much better.

 

[Corco65]

I think block 21 and Pog should become the next manager and chairman, in what ever order you choose, you seem to have all the answers for success, what ever success is. Oh and by the way I hope you have the money too, then again I guess you will have a nice simple formula to solve that challenge too.

Don't tell all the other clubs who loose money year in year out, or who's manager isn't a success or who loose money on a player, keep the secret formula to
yourselves.

Good luck and I hope your hard work, effort, commitment and millions of pounds you are about to invest pays off which of course it will because you have all the answers.

UTB

 

[McBrid]

I think block 21 and Pog should become the next manager and chairman, in what ever order you choose, you seem to have all the answers for success, what ever success is. Oh and by the way I hope you have the money too, then again I guess you will have a nice simple formula to solve that challenge too.

Don't tell all the other clubs who loose money year in year out, or who's manager isn't a success or who loose money on a player, keep the secret formula to
yourselves.

Good luck and I hope your hard work, effort, commitment and millions of pounds you are about to invest pays off which of course it will because you have all the answers.

UTB

ah right because I’m not a multi millionaire I can’t have an opinion on the club. Your in the minority in your opinion so I don’t get why you have singled us 2 out. At the end of the day, he is making bad decisions. Paying fans who love the bones of the club are gonna be disappointed . It’s that simple. If your willing to lap it up then good for you.

 

[nowthen]

I'm not disagreeing with you, and I also agree that there were better options out there.

Ultimately though, Gibson will not have truly wanted to make the Woodgate appointment. He made it because of the clubs' current financial position. He will have known he was taking a gamble at the time, but I think he probably over-estimated the quality of our squad, and felt we'd definitely have enough to survive.

Yes, we're in this position largely because of Gibsons' poor decision making, but not because of his lack of ambition.

Nope! He made it because of Woody’s PowerPoint skills!!

 

[ticker_tape]

Good bloke Gibbo

 

[atypical_boro]

I think block 21 and Pog should become the next manager and chairman, in what ever order you choose, you seem to have all the answers for success, what ever success is. Oh and by the way I hope you have the money too, then again I guess you will have a nice simple formula to solve that challenge too.

Don't tell all the other clubs who loose money year in year out, or who's manager isn't a success or who loose money on a player, keep the secret formula to
yourselves.

Good luck and I hope your hard work, effort, commitment and millions of pounds you are about to invest pays off which of course it will because you have all the answers.

UTB

Corco - there's no one who has defended Gibson on here more than me, like you are. But if he sticks with Woody and watches him take us down to league one for only the third time in our history, he's off his rocker imho. Sorry but its madness.

 

[parmoboy]

But to come out and say that Woodgate was the best option out there is a joke in itself . He didn’t have to say that.

This is where he should have been more transparent - just as he should have been when he was asked whether Woodgate would be backed in the transfer market, and Gibson became defensive.

I do think this has been part of the problem. Maybe if Gibson had have been more honest about the reasoning behind Woodgate's appointment from the start, fans may have been more supportive and understanding.

Obviously I know he couldn't come out say 'I didn't want to give Jonathan the job but we're screwed financially and he's the cheapest option' but he should have been more honest re the financial situation, and that he realsied it was going to be tough this season.

 

[Glover_elbow]

What ever his reasoning and maybe its to take the heat of woodgate it makes for awful reading. I honestly think gibson is too stubborn to change his ways. The backing for woodgate tells me he hasnt learned a thing from past failures . the rank amateurish way the club is run also wont change until gibson has gone

 

[uncle_rico]

TBF, Brownlee would have thought we'd climb up to 14th in the league this season and then win the title by 15 points or so next, so I don't really agree with this point. He never even briefly hinted at anything remotely negative in his many decades as commentator, and that was part of his charm. But let's not pretend he used to give the club a regular grilling - he most definitely didn't!

Not pretending that he gave the club a regular grilling, far from it, but he wasn't afraid to ask the tough questions. Gibson has got the local media eating from the palm of his hand, he's like a little despot.

 

[dooderooni]

From Adi's thread on the old board that was hoofed in the New Year to try an embarrass him and others:

dooderooni Posted on 30/11/2019 20:33

I’m beginning to wonder whether...

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Edit Message | Reply To Message
Pulis had to go. Not just for the standard of football which was driving people away, but also for his part in lumbering us with a badly balanced and poor value squad.

I'm sick of telling people on here that I can read Gibson like a book or that I told you all this time last year that Woodgate would get the job. This uber-parochialism set in after Aitor started moving us towards a far more continental format and threatening the status quo.

I'll confidently predict now that when Gibson finally hits the panic button on Woodgate that it'll be widely regarded as being far too late. Then we've got to rely on his decision making to appoint a successor.

Football has left Gibson behind and now that he can't buy success he's floundering and we're heading towards a potential spell in League One.

Call me all the names under the sun, but I, like Gibbo, couldn't give a toss any more.

 

[atypical_boro]

Not pretending that he gave the club a regular grilling, far from it, but he wasn't afraid to ask the tough questions. Gibson has got the local media eating from the palm of his hand, he's like a little despot.

Hmm, well I can't remember him ever asking any tough questions TBH, but each his own.

 

[atypical_boro]

From Adi's thread on the old board that was hoofed in the New Year to try an embarrass him and others:

dooderooni Posted on 30/11/2019 20:33

I’m beginning to wonder whether...

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Edit Message | Reply To Message
Pulis had to go. Not just for the standard of football which was driving people away, but also for his part in lumbering us with a badly balanced and poor value squad.

I'm sick of telling people on here that I can read Gibson like a book or that I told you all this time last year that Woodgate would get the job. This uber-parochialism set in after Aitor started moving us towards a far more continental format and threatening the status quo.

I'll confidently predict now that when Gibson finally hits the panic button on Woodgate that it'll be widely regarded as being far too late. Then we've got to rely on his decision making to appoint a successor.

Football has left Gibson behind and now that he can't buy success he's floundering and we're heading towards a potential spell in League One.

Call me all the names under the sun, but I, like Gibbo, couldn't give a toss any more.

The thing is dood, its ok calling a managerial appointment a disaster and eventually being proven right, but you have to accept that you're never going to get unanimous agreement on it only 3/4 months into the job. Most of us like to give people a fair chance. At that point, there was still time to turn the season round, and after that post, it did actually look like we were starting to.

 

[McBrid]

The thing is dood, its ok calling a managerial appointment a disaster and eventually being proven right, but you have to accept that you're never going to get unanimous agreement on it only 2 months into the job. Most of us like to give people a fair chance. At that point, there was still time to turn the season round, and after that post, it did actually look like we were starting to.

Agree atypical. I think most give him a fair chance and the fans were unbelievably patient as we know there has been young players playing and it’s a manager in his first job. But after the awful 3 games against Wigan , Luton and Barnsley most fans had lost faith. They realised league 1 was a real possibility some would call it now more a probability. It’s understandable fans now have had enough and don’t want to endure paying a lot of money to go and watch league 1 football at the Riverside with the same manager who will of failed this season and hasn’t really shown anything to suggest he would deserve to keep his job.

 

[atypical_boro]

I said only two months ago.

"Woody has basically ensured he’ll see the start of next season at the very least and hopefully we continue building something special with these academy players. The time to really judge him is after his 3 years, as long as we’re not in grave danger of going down in that time (and we’re not anymore)."

Apart from making me look like a fool (perhaps not difficult), this comment shows just how badly we've done in the last two months and says quite a lot about Woody's abadonment of what had started to get fans onside.

 

[1finny]

I think block 21 and Pog should become the next manager and chairman, in what ever order you choose, you seem to have all the answers for success, what ever success is. Oh and by the way I hope you have the money too, then again I guess you will have a nice simple formula to solve that challenge too.

Don't tell all the other clubs who loose money year in year out, or who's manager isn't a success or who loose money on a player, keep the secret formula to
yourselves.

Good luck and I hope your hard work, effort, commitment and millions of pounds you are about to invest pays off which of course it will because you have all the answers.

UTB

I'd take Block21 and Pog over what we have now thanks

 

[atypical_boro]

Agree atypical. I think most give him a fair chance and the fans were unbelievably patient as we know there has been young players playing and it’s a manager in his first job. But after the awful 3 games against Wigan , Luton and Barnsley most fans had lost faith. They realised league 1 was a real possibility some would call it now more a probability. It’s understandable fans now have had enough and don’t want to endure paying a lot of money to go and watch league 1 football at the Riverside with the same manager who will of failed this season and hasn’t really shown anything to suggest he would deserve to keep his job.

TBH, whether its League One or the Championship makes no odds to me in terms of going to matches etc. No international breaks and mostly Saturday 3 o'clock kick-offs actually sounds quite appealing to me, and the prices being the same doesn't bother me either as the club simply need my money and I can thankfully afford it and that won't change if we go down.

But I just don't understand why he wouldn't do something, while he can, to try and keep us in the division most fans, probably very fairly, 'expect' us to be in (based on history etc).

 

[Michael_Vronsky]

ah right because I’m not a multi millionaire I can’t have an opinion on the club. Your in the minority in your opinion so I don’t get why you have singled us 2 out. At the end of the day, he is making bad decisions. Paying fans who love the bones of the club are gonna be disappointed . It’s that simple. If your willing to lap it up then good for you.

There's no point Block. As said above, Gibson has such Messiah like reverence that it really doesn't matter what he does. Corco exemplifies this and a bit more.