Club Shop - Complete Shambles!

To me if fans are wiling to pay upfront, why can't they do that. There is no risk to MFC, as long as stock is going to come in eventually.

When the deliveries come in, the ones paid for are set aside with a customer name and the customer has to present a receipt when they collect.
 
Also they’re taking about demand like they’re selling Tracy Islands in 1995. The reality is that there are about 50,000 people who follow the Boro. Not all of them have an interest in merchandise so you’re talking about way, way fewer than that to cater for. We aren’t Manchester City or AC Milan, selling merchandise to an incalculable, ever-growing number of people on a global scale. We’re a second division football club with a supporter base and potential customer base that remains roughly same year on year. If they don’t know how many shirts and how much merchandise to order and have in stock by now then it’s safe to assume they never will.
 

My guess is that they are so stingy that they only pay for single bulk runs and they know they can sell a full run but they don't know if they would sell two full runs so they won't order them. It's utter incompetence because each shirt must have at least a 500% mark-up considering you can get a knock-off for £10 to your door from China and that must be profitable enough to do.

Volume x Margin = Profit. They only seem to care about Margin. It's like nobody has told them that selling more of something at a lower cost might be better than selling a small number for a large margin. They should be doing more frequent, smaller runs to flex for demand. They'll make less per shirt but they won't be making more overall. It's so basic that it is absolutely baffling.

It has to be one of the worst run retail shops I've ever encountered. The best example of how utterly useless they are is the delivery pricing. It gets more expensive the more you buy. Find anything in stock that costs less than £10 and you'll be charged £3 for delivery, anything over £10 is £6 (3-5 working days but could be up to 28! days) and there is no amount you can spend to get the delivery fee waived. That's just for the cheapest delivery option, it's £8 for Express delivery. International shipping is £13 to EU or £15 worldwide which is more than the total cost of buying a Chinese knock-off.

Sounds to me like they are also profiting off delivery fees which is pretty scummy. They say "For UK standard delivery we use a Royal Mail Tracked 48." which is less than £3 for a 2kg parcel.

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Daughter just started a new job and wanted to take a Boro mug in. Saw one in the club shop.....but then sourced the exact one for cheaper retail and "standard Royal Mail delivery" rather than the % the club shop are adding. Not massive amounts but it was a couple of quid cheaper 🤷🏻‍♂️

It is truly head scratching how they operate.
 
Diane sounds hot :love:

As an aside, I've ordered one of my bairns a Boro duvet cover this year (wife not happy as doesn't really fit with her Pinterest inspired vision of their bedrooms). Nowhere to be seen yet and ordered over a week ago!
Kids bedrooms should be kids bedrooms designed as per their wishes, not some woman’s doe-eyed view of what it would look like if it was in a luxury home catalogue. Not a dig at your Mrs, all Mrs’s are the same.
 
(I’m now wondering why I wore my signed ICI Boro shirt so much, playing football with it in the rain and mud, at school, at Southlands. And often playing with a signed Boro ball, which was obviously absolutely destroyed within weeks. They’re heritage pieces, not toys. I’m more annoyed at our Mam for letting me tbh).
I'm showing this to my 10 year old. Has a signed ball and shirt he keeps wanting to play with and i refuse to let him!! I am insisting he will thank me when he is older!!!
 
There appears to be no trace of either away shirt on the club website, so no opportunity to order one. It’s bizarre with Christmas on the horizon. I can’t think of many businesses that operate like that. They’re catering to 40 or 50,000 people, they should have databases and a firm handle on numbers in terms of who buys what year-on-year. It’s weird that this just goes on and on tbh.
Unless you buy things on release you're screwed basically as they quickly run out and rarely get more stock in.
 
If they are selling out then that is their market figure.
No need to worry about people being unable to buy stuff, gaining more customers or missing out on potential orders.
You do wonder just how much money we are missing out on from a commercial standpoint.
I'm sure nobody is wanting them to buy so much stock that they have loads left, but there has to be a happy medium between that and hens teeth availability.
 
Also they’re taking about demand like they’re selling Tracy Islands in 1995. The reality is that there are about 50,000 people who follow the Boro. Not all of them have an interest in merchandise so you’re talking about way, way fewer than that to cater for. We aren’t Manchester City or AC Milan, selling merchandise to an incalculable, ever-growing number of people on a global scale. We’re a second division football club with a supporter base and potential customer base that remains roughly same year on year. If they don’t know how many shirts and how much merchandise to order and have in stock by now then it’s safe to assume they never will.
You might well be way off with the numbers Viv.
 
Kids bedrooms should be kids bedrooms designed as per their wishes, not some woman’s doe-eyed view of what it would look like if it was in a luxury home catalogue. Not a dig at your Mrs, all Mrs’s are the same.
Agree. Although in her defence he hasn't actually asked for a Boro duvet cover, its just something I'm forcing upon him.
 
And another thing........

The "E-Mail me when back in stock" suggestion.....I've done it 3? times and have yet to receive a response ie stuff out of stock has never been restocked.

One bitten, thrice.......whatever🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
 
I emailed the club shop as soon as I saw this thread and received this reply.
Please do read it carefully...

It’s Christmas and like most retailers we are up against it now, I’ve answered below the best I can, but the reality is the demand Rob, we have lots of new arrivals daily, but we realise we can’t satisfy everyone. We advise customers every day and keep them up to speed with Stock situation but

Home mini kits are Back in stock from 0-12 right through to 3 years.


Third shirts are full stocked in all children’s sizes, Adults we are missing S,M,L

Home & Away shirts have left Italy and are on the way as we speak, we tell people to go on to the website and select the email me when back in stock, this is a great tool to let people know the product is back in! they can then place the order online for click and collect ( free of charge) this saves people coming down or calling up and is the best way to secure stock.

Training wear has also left Italy and is on the way to us again, we tell people to use the online tool it’s the fastest way to communicate the stock is available.

Again, we do have lots of new stock, kids’ hoody’s, full tracksuits, coats, and nightwear etc:



I hope this is a help to people and as you can see there is a reason behind asking people to go to the website rather than have to return to the store again.
I am going to sit down with retail manager Jo-Ann Swinnerton after the Christmas rush with your questions.
Appreciate your jumping on it Rob, but that response is full of holes.
"White shirts, only S/M/L missing"...so most normal sizes unavailable.
I'm stood in the actual shop having made the effort to go there, but they don't have a process whereby I can order one? - that is nonsensical and extremely shabby customer service.
The lack of availability happens every single season and is never addressed adequately, if at all.
"We can't satisfy everyone"...just wow! - the replica shirts have to be the most popular, highest margin items in the shop, yet many sizes in all shirts are currently unavailable and some have been so for months.
"On their way from Italy?"...most retailers have their stock bolstered ready for early November in time for Christmas demand - Boro go for 15 December and little doubt they'll quickly disappear.
As some gave referenced, sales data/peaks/troughs, is in-built to retail EPOS systems and I would question if we employ anyone who fully understands the functionality of these.
 
Been trying to get my nephew the away kit for Christmas for last 8 weeks still not the stock for the size he needs joke man. The amount of lost revenue and sales this must add up too
 
You might well be way off with the numbers Viv.
I’m going off the regular 25,000(ish) attendances and a general estimate based on the size of the town, catchment area, etc. When I say follow the Boro, I mean people all over the area who check the scores, listen to games on Tees, watch illegal streams, people who live and work all over the UK and across the globe. Loads of people have an interest in the club but don’t go or buy merchandise, just because it’s the local team and is how we can or could shift thousands of extra tickets for showpiece games such as finals and the like.

If the number the club is working with is smaller than 50,000 - or any of the numbers I’ve mentioned above - then there’s even less of an excuse for continually running out of stock tbh.
 
I'm showing this to my 10 year old. Has a signed ball and shirt he keeps wanting to play with and i refuse to let him!! I am insisting he will thank me when he is older!!!
He WILL thank you for it. What you could do is put them away under lock and key and then buy another shirt - stock permitting - and ball and forge the signatures, then let him play with those. And then on his 18th birthday get the originals out of the loft and sit back and enjoy.
 
I’m going off the regular 25,000(ish) attendances and a general estimate based on the size of the town, catchment area, etc. When I say follow the Boro, I mean people all over the area who check the scores, listen to games on Tees, watch illegal streams, people who live and work all over the UK and across the globe. Loads of people have an interest in the club but don’t go or buy merchandise, just because it’s the local team and is how we can or could shift thousands of extra tickets for showpiece games such as finals and the like.

If the number the club is working with is smaller than 50,000 - or any of the numbers I’ve mentioned above - then there’s even less of an excuse for continually running out of stock tbh.

The boro fan base is way larger than 50k be in the hundreds of thousands who would decide to make a purchase of say a football shirt.
 
The boro fan base is way larger than 50k be in the hundreds of thousands who would decide to make a purchase of say a football shirt.

Nah, I think Viv is more accurate with his estimate. I'd bet there's no more than 100k who would describe themseleves as "a boro fan".

The reality is that no one really knows, probably least of all the club.
 
FWIW the club have 394, 000 followers on twitter. I understand not all of them are fans. I would be interested in knowing what % of them are fans mind.
 
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