Why would you not take a vaccination?

One or more of:

- Selfishness
- Stupidity
- Ignorance
- Contrarianism
- Fear

Fear and ignorance are the two that I can understand, though I don't agree with it.
 
Same reason people don’t get their kids vaccinated against things like Measles or Mumps - things that had been pretty much eradicated in this country due to vaccines but are now becoming more prevelant. They read some bullshït on the internet or listen to some conspiracy theorist spouting bollöcks.
 
uncle_rico said:
Same reason people don’t get their kids vaccinated against things like Measles or Mumps - things that had been pretty much eradicated in this country due to vaccines but are now becoming more prevelant. They read some bullshït on the internet or listen to some conspiracy theorist spouting bollöcks.
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That’s a different argument though, although I agree with you. MMR, TB, Smallpox etc were vicious diseases, but not at pandemic levels when people chose not to take them. They could actually make their choice, however considered or misguided, without a real fear of impacting their fellow men.
 
Borotommo said:
That’s a different argument though, although I agree with you. MMR, TB, Smallpox etc were vicious diseases, but not at pandemic levels when people chose not to take them. They could actually make their choice, however considered or misguided, without a real fear of impacting their fellow men.
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That’s true, but the reasons are the same.
 
Emmersons_BrazillianDong said:
Agreed but can genuinely see why people wouldn't trust this lot to run a bath. I'm not aiming to be political, but this government have handled this pandemic terribly. Their mismanagement has cost lives.
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It’s not the Government’s advice here, though, it’s the medical professionals, scientists and regulators. Whitty, Vallance, Van Tam et al have been unequivocal in their recommendations. They have also made clear how apolitical they are and must remain
 
atypical_boro said:
Because, over a longer period of time, it could emerge that certain risks may have been present in taking it, that no one is aware of just yet, as is the case with all “new things”. And some people may feel hesitant about that.
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I haven’t read much about it, but haven’t all the scientists with any credibility stated that any adverse reactions happen soon instead of years later. And that being based on all of the previous vaccines.

I don’t think there is any history of vaccines laying dormant in people then causing them harm years later.
 
It has been said repeatedly that the at risk group is the over 60's etc.
If you were young and you thought the chance of serios illness was small, then it is harder to make the argument to vaccinate.
If you add into that cultural or religious beleifs then it becomes easier to understand.
I belive we all should do it for the good of others, but then I am old and have a vested interest.

Does anyone know if Jehovahs Witnesses are having the vaccine as I believe they shun other medical interventions ?
 
I’m worried for my daughter as she has a terrible phobia of needles so hopefully there will be other options of vaccination.
 
Wonder how many people aren't because of misinformation. I cant log into any social media without reading posts about the vaccine that are completely untrue. Vulnerable people are reading this and believing it, which is causing huge risks to themselves and others and will keep us under restrictions for much longer. Like with many other cases social media has to do more to stop the spread of misinformation. Wonder how many thousands will die because they weren't vaccinated.

Worth remembering that people with certain immune system problems wont be able to take this type of vaccine, so its even more important to vaccinate as much of the population as possible.

My risk from covid is minimal but I was vaccinated as soon as I had the chance, as is thankfully everyone else I know. Anyone who refuses without a reason is just putting their elderly relatives and anyone else at risk, absolute madness not to take it.
 
Heam44 said:
I haven’t read much about it, but haven’t all the scientists with any credibility stated that any adverse reactions happen soon instead of years later. And that being based on all of the previous vaccines.

I don’t think there is any history of vaccines laying dormant in people then causing them harm years later.
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I don’t know but I imagine most people don’t have an intimate knowledge of vaccination history etc. It isn’t totally absurd, though, to worry about it, in my opinion.

Like mobile phones, we just don’t know what the long term effects could be. We’re told all sorts of different hypotheses but there’s still every chance that after 50 years of daily use we all start dropping like flies. I suppose we’ve all decided to take that risk because a life in the modern world without a mobile phone is a life not worth living (!).
 
Borotommo said:
It’s not the Government’s advice here, though, it’s the medical professionals, scientists and regulators. Whitty, Vallance, Van Tam et al have been unequivocal in their recommendations. They have also made clear how apolitical they are and must remain
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I agree mate but this is one of the pitfalls of allowing a lack of accountability and lies to fester. For some, lines will be blurred and they won't trust anybody seen to be 'authority'.

This isn't just the UK either. I think the US is in a terrible shape for people planning on refusing to vaccinate. When I saw stats comparing us, we seemed to be much more willing.

Edit* to be clear, I am not suggesting any personal disbelief in any of the medical professionals and am fully vaccinated myself as of last week
 
My aunt in law (if that's a term) hasn't had the Covid vaccination because she 'doesn't do vaccinations'

She also doesn't have a mobile phone, nor microwave oven, because of the 'dangerous rays' they produce
 
Glover_elbow said:
Lack of education, stupidity and mistrust of authority. Pathetic really. I would suggest that there is a disproportionate amount of them who are religious as well. They can put their faith in some mysterious god but not in science. I would make them shop at specific times call it covid hour ban them from public transport and let employers suspend them if they refuse the vacince time to get tough
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Make them wear arm bands and all be moved into a quadrant in the city that is surrounded by walls ..........Oh that’s been done in the past if I remember correctly !

Sorry Glover couldn’t resist that , I do see where youre coming from though
 
Heam44 said:
I haven’t read much about it, but haven’t all the scientists with any credibility stated that any adverse reactions happen soon instead of years later. And that being based on all of the previous vaccines.

I don’t think there is any history of vaccines laying dormant in people then causing them harm years later.
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Usually in the first 6 weeks all adverse reactions happen from what I can find.
 
If it just impacted me I would probably gamble and not take it , - given it impacts others I have taken it, it would be wrong if me

some people have health conditions so that’s a good reason not to take it.



the only people I struggle with are the care workers with no health condition whom choose not to take it.
 
Plenty of discussions in my household around whether to take the vaccine or not, mainly from my 24 yr old son.

For clarity me and my wife have had both doses of the vaccine but my son is not seeking to be vaccinated as follows

1. Doesn`t trust the Government to tell the truth surrounding the vaccine
2. Vaccine not fully tested

Personally I think he should get the vaccine and I`m trying to persuade him that the government will eventually use those who have not had the vaccine (unless can`t for health reasons) to extend restrictions and blame it on them.

I`d ask for people to keep it to themselves on whether you think he is an idiot, religious nut job or whatever
 
Boro in Devon said:
Does anyone know if Jehovahs Witnesses are having the vaccine as I believe they shun other medical interventions ?
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Yes, they are. I work with a lad who is JW and he has had both. He said the vaccine's don't have blood products in them, which would have been his reason for not having it.

There does however seem to be a poor take up amongst many in the Islamic community, despite the vaccines being classed as Halal. Does anyone know the reason for this?
 
uncle_rico said:
Yes, they are. I work with a lad who is JW and he has had both. He said the vaccine's don't have blood products in them, which would have been his reason for not having it.

There does however seem to be a poor take up amongst many in the Islamic community, despite the vaccines being classed as Halal. Does anyone know the reason for this?
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Much of it down to misinformation in the communities. In particular the older generations who don't use SM and who get their news by word of mouth and take it as 'gospel', so all it takes is for one community leader to say its not halal so don't take it, mistakenly, and the entire community follows suit. This is very hard to reverse which is why we have community engagement officers actively going into these 'hard to reach' communities to convey the truth, but it is hard work and takes time. We've seen on a large scale within the Bangladeshi community, where we have had bengali speaking colleagues engaging in person with the community, its the only way to change opinion, nothing else has any significant effect
 
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