This meeting with Gibson

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You literally said he was putting in £500k a week, which just isn't true. When talking about football finances, especially when the club are pricing fans out of attending, I would say being accurate is quite important.
Jeezo - How much more of a simpler way would you suggest to describe the fact that one bloke is financially securing the football club on a week to week, year to year basis, forever.

If you are going to start applying accuracy to every comment on this thread good luck to you you will be here for a while
 
Probably because they are acting on behalf of the fans, and they are conscious that the fans will want an update as to what happened last night, rather than prioritising their relationship with the club and worrying about jeopardising their seat at the table.
Or perhaps there is more to be tied up that could be positive but RF going early has bounced everyone into making a statement leading to more noise
 
We all know that Gibson (or rather The Gibson & O'Neill Company Ltd) is putting money into the club, but I wasn't disputing that.
only you said

"That doesn't mean that Gibson is putting in £500k per week of his, or G&O, money."

you couldnt be any clearer.


so i ask again, who pays the bills ? inc the 29M loss in 2022 ?


asking for Mrs Gibson and the family.
 
only you said

"That doesn't mean that Gibson is putting in £500k per week of his, or G&O, money."

you couldnt be any clearer.


so i ask again, who pays the bills ? inc the 29M loss in 2022 ?


asking for Mrs Gibson and the family.
You're equating running a family budget on the same basis as running a network of linked companies and investments.

Its as lazy as when people do the same with government debt and borrowing.
 
Exactly which is why counting the pennies lets the pounds look after themselves
Given this football clubs Gibson era ambitions I'd suggest the word pennies has never been uttered once
You're equating running a family budget on the same basis as running a network of linked companies and investments.

Its as lazy as when people do the same with government debt and borrowing.
The minute I see a thread on here next time the club spunk several £m on a panic buy CF worrying about the impact on commercial freight ratecarding Bulkhaul will possibly have to mitigate for is the moment I will stop treating MFC as an individual entity.

& as for MMT, well Richard Murphy has been more damaging on public understanding of Public Debt than Wakefield on the MMR vaccine
 
You're equating running a family budget on the same basis as running a network of linked companies and investments.

Its as lazy as when people do the same with government debt and borrowing.
your very incorrect with the assumption of household budgets by me - thats Thatchers line.

i will ask for a 3rd time - its quite clear.

who pays the bills at Middlesbrough FC. ?

never mind the fog of gibson/o'neill ltd/household budgets. loss leaders in supermarkets or any other fogging.

tell me and all the others on the board, who the secret financier of middlesbrough fc, if it isnt Steve Gibson?
 
The minute I see a thread on here next time the club spunk several £m on a panic buy CF worrying about the impact on commercial freight ratecarding Bulkhaul will possibly have to mitigate for is the moment I will stop treating MFC as an individual entity.
They aren't an individual entity so you should stop before then. They are specifically referenced in the parent company accounts.
 
your very incorrect with the assumption of household budgets by me - thats Thatchers line.

i will ask for a 3rd time - its quite clear.

who pays the bills at Middlesbrough FC. ?

never mind the fog of gibson/o'neill ltd/household budgets. loss leaders in supermarkets or any other fogging.

tell me and all the others on the board, who the secret financier of middlesbrough fc, if it isnt Steve Gibson?
Of course its Gibson and his company but he has ways of mitigating those losses and I'm certainly not in a position where I can tell a guy worth half a billion quid to apologise to his missus that she can't have rhino horn indicator stalks on her Aston Martin as he's brought in Matt Clarke and has agreed to pay Jonny Howson's pension next year.
 
They aren't an individual entity so you should stop before then. They are specifically referenced in the parent company accounts.
An individual entity owned by another individual entity

 
An individual entity owned by another individual entity

Except thats not how it works. Theres a group of companies report for The Gibson O'Neil Company.

 
Of course its Gibson and his company but he has ways of mitigating those losses and I'm certainly not in a position where I can tell a guy worth half a billion quid to apologise to his missus that she can't have rhino horn indicator stalks on her Aston Martin as he's brought in Matt Clarke and has agreed to pay Jonny Howson's pension next year.


that was a quicker u turn than Starmer. 😇

" I would say being accurate is quite important."- Uncle rico
 
Middlesbrough accounts are filed with the parent company to lower the tax bill for the overall company. Our losses cut the tax bill
 
that was a quicker u turn than Starmer. 😇
It wasn't a u-turn. I acknowledged that it falls on Gibson but you were making it sound like he has to apologise to his missus for his investment in the club. He runs a set of businesses that overall are profitable. Its not like he has someone like Ben Houchen ensuring he has profitability in all his businesses without risk over his shoulder.

If you don't think Gibson should take responsibility for the running of his own business and put it on his customers, then fair enough. I dont agree.
 
This a key point and well made. (y)

I would urge RF to keep on pressurising Gibson into addressing the other blindingly obvious pricing issues. Keep on confronting him.

I would then urge the comfy brigade of the self appointed Supporters Forum to accept that without RF prodding him, then Gibson would not have engaged.

I would then urge all of these groups lucky enough to be invited to these audiences with Gibson to communicate to the rest of us mere mortals.
3 hours chat and a small paragraph of a statement. What was said for 3 hours anyone there care to expand
 
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