HolgateCorner
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Is that correct? I hadn’t picked that up.
The 9am figures not disclosed yet?
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Randy
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Last time I checked the news on Friday it seems to me they are back to referring to the virus as coronavirus and not covid-19. Haven't read it since apart from snippets I see on twitter and here for that very reason. Newspapers will be reporting when people catch a F***ing cold next.
7 deaths in English hospitals today apparently.
ForssAwakens
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So you don’t think we should be reporting on covid-19/coronavirus?
The thing that is still ravaging some countries?
hopesoboro
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I don't think he was saying that. He was pointing out the references to coronavirus rather than Covid19 and the emphasis on number of positive tests rather than number of deaths - I think!!
Randy
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I didn't say that. Hence why I said I still look out for snippets of news on twitter and on here. I refuse to fund a machine that has literally scared people to death.
As hopes has said the media has moved away from reporting deaths as headline news and is back to focussing on cases without informing the public about the differences between asymptomatic cases, hospital admission cases and 111 directed cases.
Laughing
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Whilst I don't agree with Randy, he has a valid point of view, until proven otherwise, and I hope to god that it turns out we are over it and can get on with our lives very soon. The reason he has a valid point of view is the reporting isn't exactly transparent is it? That being the case it is open to interpretation.
The one thing I vehemently disagree with is equating a lower than seasonal average for mortality with the disease is gone. It's not that I don't agree that our weekly rate of deaths is lower than the 5 year average, I think the reasons for that are other than the virus is in remission.
The one thing I vehemently disagree with is equating a lower than seasonal average for mortality with the disease is gone. It's not that I don't agree that our weekly rate of deaths is lower than the 5 year average, I think the reasons for that are other than the virus is in remission.
Billy Horner
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Today's headline analysis:
• 670 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 938
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 1.6% to 802 per day, following 4.8% increase yesterday (and 17th increase in the past 19 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 15.1% higher than one week ago (from 16.5% higher yesterday) and 26.3% higher than two weeks ago (from 25.6% higher yesterday and 16.6% higher 7 days ago)
• 89 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, up from 9 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 6.7% to 60 per day, following 0.4% increase yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 7.7% lower than one week ago (from 0.9% higher yesterday) and 7.1% lower than two weeks ago (from 6.2% lower yesterday and 21.0% lower 7 days ago)
• 670 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 938
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 1.6% to 802 per day, following 4.8% increase yesterday (and 17th increase in the past 19 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 15.1% higher than one week ago (from 16.5% higher yesterday) and 26.3% higher than two weeks ago (from 25.6% higher yesterday and 16.6% higher 7 days ago)
• 89 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, up from 9 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 6.7% to 60 per day, following 0.4% increase yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 7.7% lower than one week ago (from 0.9% higher yesterday) and 7.1% lower than two weeks ago (from 6.2% lower yesterday and 21.0% lower 7 days ago)
Randy
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They told us the virus was here to stay at the very beginning. Nothing has changed in that respect.
Surely it's time to now focus on hospital deaths and for the facts and figures guys to be transparent and tell us the dates these other ones have occured and where.
ForssAwakens
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Sorry randy I got the wrong end of the stick
Laughing
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I do get your frustration, I do. Your interpretation of the figures is different to mine, is all.
Randy
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No critically ill covid-19 patients in James Cook. Only 2 covid-19 patients in the hospital.
https://www.nomoresurgeons.com/post/noppe
https://www.nomoresurgeons.com/post/noppe
Billy Horner
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Today's headline analysis:
• 891 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 670
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 2.3% to 820 per day, following 1.6% increase yesterday (and 18th increase in the past 20 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 13.0% higher than one week ago (from 15.1% higher yesterday) and 28.5% higher than two weeks ago (from 26.3% higher yesterday and 24.2% higher 7 days ago)
• 65 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, down from 89 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 4.3% to 58 per day, following 6.7% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 12.4% lower than one week ago (from 7.7% lower yesterday) and 9.8% lower than two weeks ago (from 7.1% lower yesterday and 14.2% lower 7 days ago)
• 891 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 670
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 2.3% to 820 per day, following 1.6% increase yesterday (and 18th increase in the past 20 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 13.0% higher than one week ago (from 15.1% higher yesterday) and 28.5% higher than two weeks ago (from 26.3% higher yesterday and 24.2% higher 7 days ago)
• 65 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, down from 89 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 4.3% to 58 per day, following 6.7% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 12.4% lower than one week ago (from 7.7% lower yesterday) and 9.8% lower than two weeks ago (from 7.1% lower yesterday and 14.2% lower 7 days ago)
Alvez_48
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See what's interesting is... If so many are still dying from covid 19 outside of hospital Vs inside (which is seemingly the case from the data) why aren't these people being rushed to hospital before they die? Why aren't they being tested?
Was at work today and a lad who sits near me said his 94 year old grandad had died and they wanted to put covid because it meant they would get money (within the care home). I hadn't even heard this had been happening so cannot confirm the veracity of the story but we need clear transparent reporting more than ever and it's just not happening (and in this instance it's not the governments fault)
hopesoboro
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Where is this - Iran?!
Randy
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Money must be a factor. The wife got a £200 taxable bonus for working during the pandemic.
Randy
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Are you still using the public health england figures?
Billy Horner
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These are UK wide figures, not just England. They are the ones still published daily by the government, either on its Covid-19 statistics website or on its Coronavirus data website.
newusername
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This week deaths are on course to be c.25% less than they were last week (449), even so they are still likely to be over 50% higher than the week before lockdown (242). However there is no indication that lockdown is going to be made more stringent to stop people dying.
I think the Govt/SAGE are focused on the R-Rate, which was last updated on Friday 31 July 2020 and for the UK is 0.8-0.9. As long as that stays below 1, then they are "happy" with the general level of infections & death and will only act if there are local hot spots of community transmission.
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