SmallTown
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I'm glad you think over 200 people dying is good news. Interesting morals like
The 9am figures not disclosed yet?
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Randy
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Where's your pity for the other 1600 people on average who die every day of non covid-19 related causes?
SmallTown
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Exactly. We were never winning. We haven't won for a long time
kuepper
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We don't live forever, but 64582 people (UK excess deaths up to yesterday) would have likely lived a lot longer if the Govt hadn't acted too little too late on lockdown, ppe, test and trace, care homes, border etc
Randy
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Are we using official ONS figures or are we using excess death figures?
We can't compare last year's or 10 years ago to this year until this year is over.
Yes people die from a naturally occurring disease.
As Alvez said, it is good news, averages are down, treatment has been found to help lower the rate even more, people are going back to work, people are going back to living.
Oh and pubs and bars and restaurants will be back open again next month for those who want to visit. I hope we don't see you or smalltown in there, wouldn't want to run the 0.006% risk you might get virus. Although be aware your body is current transporting around 150 different types of virus right this minute.
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Alvez_48
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I'm not letting you derail this thread too so I'll just say this no I don't think it's good over 200 people dying is good news.
P.s. Over 200 people did not die from covid today.
Now back to the sterling work from @Billy Horner and @bear66
kuepper
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The ONS excess death figure doesn't compare last year nor 10 years ago but excess deaths in the same period (nothing to do with the year being 'over') since the start of the pandemic compared to the average of last 5 years. Epidemiologists have said that excess mortality - deaths from all causes that exceed the five-year average for the time of year - is the best way of determining the number who have died from a disease outbreak.
SmallTown
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But over 200 people did die.
I know what you're getting at. I totally understand your desire to get the economy up and running. I'm just pointing out it's really tasteless when hundreds are dying every day. It's hard to read
Alvez_48
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No, over 200 deaths were registered today, you really should be able to understand the difference by now.
I'm not replying to your nonsense again, you have no idea my motivation.
SmallTown
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That's not what I said. Read it again
I don't care what your motivation is. I'm just pointing out that stating the deaths of over 200 people as "good news" as tasteless at best. Not pleasant to read. You should moderate your language.
kuepper
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There's been double counting endemic to the way stats have been compiled, so I guess they'll hide that fact as long as they can. This was shown up in the 1st week of the English test and trace system: if someone tests positive they should have been referred to test and trace but over 4000 weren't - the people had been tested more than once under the perverse way they count tests. Dido Harding omitted to explain that the govt are getting caught up in their own statistical web of lies - maybe because her husband is a right wing Tory MP
Chris_Boro
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From what I can gather from the pillers, it seems that around a third of people have been tested when compared to the number of tests carried out.
Avoiding the assumption that the data is not available because it looks bad. Surely each test is done on an nhs number so why is it so hard for them to post concrete data on how many people have been tested?
I want to know the ratio of new cases to people tested each day.
Avoiding the assumption that the data is not available because it looks bad. Surely each test is done on an nhs number so why is it so hard for them to post concrete data on how many people have been tested?
I want to know the ratio of new cases to people tested each day.
bear66
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As of 9am on 17 June, there have been 7,121,976 tests, with 140,359 tests on 16 June.
299,251 people have tested positive.
As of 5pm on 16 June, of those who tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, across all settings, 42,153 have died.
0.37% increase in positive tests. 184 deaths in all settings. 310 Pillar 1 positive tests.
299,251 people have tested positive.
As of 5pm on 16 June, of those who tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, across all settings, 42,153 have died.
0.37% increase in positive tests. 184 deaths in all settings. 310 Pillar 1 positive tests.
Billy Horner
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Today's headline analysis:
• 328 hospital reported infections in 24-hour period, virtually unchanged from yesterday's 329
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections increases by 8.2%, following 13.4% decrease yesterday (and 3rd increase in the past 4 days)
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections is 7.8% lower than one week ago (from 26.5% lower yesterday) and 36.0% lower than two weeks ago (from 43.6% lower yesterday and 57.4% lower 7 days ago)
• 184 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, up from 233 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 5.6%, following 4.7% decrease yesterday (and 12th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 26.8% lower than one week ago (from 28.3% lower yesterday) and 43.8% lower than two weeks ago (from 42.1% lower yesterday and 20.3% lower 7 days ago)
• 328 hospital reported infections in 24-hour period, virtually unchanged from yesterday's 329
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections increases by 8.2%, following 13.4% decrease yesterday (and 3rd increase in the past 4 days)
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections is 7.8% lower than one week ago (from 26.5% lower yesterday) and 36.0% lower than two weeks ago (from 43.6% lower yesterday and 57.4% lower 7 days ago)
• 184 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, up from 233 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 5.6%, following 4.7% decrease yesterday (and 12th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 26.8% lower than one week ago (from 28.3% lower yesterday) and 43.8% lower than two weeks ago (from 42.1% lower yesterday and 20.3% lower 7 days ago)
ForssAwakens
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Your taking what Alvez is saying out of context, personally I believe you are being deliberately inflammatory.
The U.K. were at crazy levels, to see it coming down and hospital infections coming should be seen as good news
No one isn’t saying each death isn’t a tragedy
SmallTown
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I'm not, actually. I know exaclty whast Alvez is saying. The fact he's so vociferous about his beliefs is extremely distatsteful given all the deaths
bear66
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As of 9am on 18 June, there have been 7,259,555 tests, with 136,516 tests on 17 June.
300,469 people have tested positive.
As of 5pm on 17 June, of those who tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, across all settings, 42,288 have died.
0.4% increase in positive tests. 135 deaths announced. 336 Pillar 1 positive tests.
300,469 people have tested positive.
As of 5pm on 17 June, of those who tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, across all settings, 42,288 have died.
0.4% increase in positive tests. 135 deaths announced. 336 Pillar 1 positive tests.
