The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

Billy Horner

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Today's headline analysis:

• 1,048 hospital reported infections in 24-hour period, slightly down from yesterday's 1,104
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections decreases by 5.0%, following 2.6% decrease yesterday (and 14th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections is 26.3% lower than one week ago (from 25.7% lower yesterday) and 50.3% lower than two weeks ago (from 47.2% lower yesterday and 43.5% lower 7 days ago)
• 363 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, down from 545 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 4.9%, following 3.0% decrease yesterday (and 4th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 19.0% lower than one week ago (from 18.9% lower yesterday) and 36.7% lower than two weeks ago (from 35.8% lower yesterday and 38.3% lower 7 days ago)
 

kuepper

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Today's testing data is all over the place. Revisions to historical data across the spectrum of different pillars.
I'm not usually a R4 listener tbh but I listened to this show 'More or Less' this morning and they gave a detailed analysis and clear explanation of what counts as 'tests' in a very understated way and I was gobsmacked at the fraudulence of it all eg I hadn't realised non-diagnostic tests (for research purposes) were included, these can be up to 30000!. Starts at 12 mins in and only lasts 6.45. Govt still refusing to say how many posted tests are returned.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000j949
 

Billy Horner

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Thanks for that kuepper. Really interesting listen.

I actually have less problem with the government including the Pillar 4 tests (surveillance testing of the general population), although I did notice that the numbers of those tests have increased significantly over the past week. I think surveillance is an important part of the overall testing strategy, so it is legitimate to include them in the testing statistics (although, as they're postal tests, you have the issue of counting all of those posted out rather than just those returned for analysis).

However, I do think there are significant problems with the other issues raised in that programme. In particular, if someone goes to a drive-thru testing station and has both a swab and a sputum sample taken for analysis, I think most of us would think of that as one test. Apparently not though - it would count as two tests and one person tested.

Another example is when the tester at a testing station has reason to think that the first swab they have taken might have been contaminated (as the swab must only touch the patient's tonsils and no other part of their mouth). In these circumstances, the tester may take an additional swab, which would apparently count as an additional test.

Similarly, when someone has been hospitalised and recovered, they now have to test negative before they can be discharged. To be on the safe side, the NHS laboratories will test the same sample twice, in order to ensure they aren't getting a false negative. Again, I think most of us would think of that as one test, but apparently the government counts that as two tests.

If you think of all of the people being tested every day and the number of times any of the above examples might apply, that must add up to thousands of such 'tests' every day.
 
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bear66

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As of 9am on 21 May, there have been 3,090,566 tests, with 128,340 tests on 20 May.

2,064,329 people have been tested, of which 250,908 tested positive.

As of 5pm on 20 May, of those tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, 36,042 have died. This new figure includes deaths in all settings, not just in hospitals. The equivalent figure under the old measure would have been 29,221.

Approximately 1% increase in positive tests.
 

Billy Horner

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Today's headline analysis:

• 1,167 hospital reported infections in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 1,048
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections decreases by 4.3%, following 5.0% decrease yesterday (and 15th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections is 23.3% lower than one week ago (from 26.3% lower yesterday) and 50.8% lower than two weeks ago (from 50.3% lower yesterday and 46.0% lower 7 days ago)
• 338 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, slightly down from 363 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 3.6%, following 4.9% decrease yesterday (and 5th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 19.0% lower than one week ago (same as yesterday) and 36.8% lower than two weeks ago (from 36.7% lower yesterday and 39.8% lower 7 days ago)
 

Billy Horner

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Any signs of a second spike yet looking at the data right now?
No. Still on the down slope from the peak in April.

Positive tests under Pillar 1 (hospital cases) currently around 5-6% and positives under Pillar 2 (key workers) around 3-4%. Both down considerably from their peaks, although we were conducting significantly fewer tests back then.
 

bear66

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As of 9am on 22 May, there have been 3,231,921 tests, with 140,497 tests on 21 May.

2,144,626 people have been tested, of which 254,195 tested positive.

As of 5pm on 21 May, of those tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, 36,393 have died. This new figure includes deaths in all settings, not just in hospitals. The equivalent figure under the old measure would have been 29,393.

1.3% increase in positive tests.
 

Billy Horner

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Today's headline analysis:

• 1,357 hospital reported infections in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 1,167
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections decreases by 0.6%, following 4.3% decrease yesterday (and 16th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections is 18.5% lower than one week ago (from 23.3% lower yesterday) and 48.2% lower than two weeks ago (from 50.8% lower yesterday and 47.9% lower 7 days ago)
• 351 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, slightly up from 338 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 1.4%, following 3.6% decrease yesterday (and 6th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 13.1% lower than one week ago (from 19.0% lower yesterday) and 35.8% lower than two weeks ago (from 36.8% lower yesterday and 41.6% lower 7 days ago)
 

RandySavage

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what difference does it make if you're dying on a ventilator?
**** hell what are you blathering on about?

Most on here and social media and comments sections on online newspaper comments sections predicted an apocalyptic second wave mega death spike that would finish off the world after seeing some celebrations on the TV.

Dying on a ventilator? Time to wake up, the lockdown is now going to cause more deaths than this virus eventually.

May I ask a personal question? Are you still working? Do you any children of school age? Is your home paid for or still mortgaged?
 

SmallTown

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**** hell what are you blathering on about?

Most on here and social media and comments sections on online newspaper comments sections predicted an apocalyptic second wave mega death spike that would finish off the world after seeing some celebrations on the TV.

Dying on a ventilator? Time to wake up, the lockdown is now going to cause more deaths than this virus eventually.

May I ask a personal question? Are you still working? Do you any children of school age? Is your home paid for or still mortgaged?
I don’t think anyone said apocalyptic. The only person I’ve seen suing such exaggeration is yourself.
Oh and yes (reduces hours), no and neither
 

bear66

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As of 9am 23 May, there have been 3,348,507 tests, with 116,585 tests on 22 May.

257,154 people have tested positive.

As of 5pm on 22 May, of those tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, 36,675 have sadly died. This new figure includes deaths in all settings not just in hospitals. The equivalent figure under the old measure would have been 29,583.

1.15% increase in positive tests today.
 

Billy Horner

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Today's headline analysis:

• 1,277 hospital reported infections in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 1,357
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections decreases by 3.3%, following 0.6% decrease yesterday (and 17th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections is 20.1% lower than one week ago (from 18.5% lower yesterday) and 46.3% lower than two weeks ago (from 48.2% lower yesterday and same as 7 days ago)
• 282 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, down from 351 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 7.8%, following 1.4% decrease yesterday (and 7th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 23.3% lower than one week ago (from 13.1% lower yesterday) and 36.1% lower than two weeks ago (from 35.8% lower yesterday and 36.0% lower 7 days ago)
 
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