The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

With regards to this so called second wave, isn't it based on previous 'flu' epidemics and not coronavirus epidemics?
 
Yes and no.

A second (or multiple) wave of any virus is possible. Indeed, with a novel virus it is likely if left unchecked.

However, with SARS and MERS it has been shown that it is possible to suppress the virus to the extent that it is controllable. To do this, you need an effective test, track and isolate system.

This is the major difference between the outcomes in Europe and Asia. The European countries, predominantly, treated the virus like flu and allowed it to get out of control at an early stage. The Asian countries, who had experienced SARS, knew that they needed to suppress it as soon as possible.
 
As of 9am on 28 May, there have been 3,918,079 tests, with 119,587 tests on 27 May.

269,127 people have tested positive.

As of 5pm on 27 May, of those tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, 37,837 have died. This new figure includes deaths in all settings, not just in hospitals. The equivalent figure under the old measure would have been 30,391.

0.7% increase in positive tests, a third of which are pillar 1.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 655 hospital reported infections in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 787
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections decreases by 7.6%, following 3.7% decrease yesterday (and 22nd consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections is 24.5% lower than one week ago (from 21.9% lower yesterday) and 42.1% lower than two weeks ago (from 42.4% lower yesterday and 50.8% lower 7 days ago)
• 377 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, slightly down from 412 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings increases by 2.2%, following 2.9% decrease yesterday (and 2nd consecutive daily increase)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 26.1% lower than one week ago (from 30.3% lower yesterday) and 40.1% lower than two weeks ago (from 43.5% lower yesterday and 36.8% lower 7 days ago)
 
SmallTown said:
Deaths seem to be creeping back up. I hope Randy Savage doesn't get the second wave he seems to want
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Classy mate, real classy. Show me another country in the world that has had a second wave? I'll wait.
Show me scientific proof that a second wave is coming bearing in mind the models were all based on a flu epidemic and not a coronavirus one?
Also whilst we are at it show me the science that has changed from 98-99% of people only suffering a mild to moderate illness to something more deadlier?

Infact **** it shut everything, shops, supermarkets, petrol stations, everything. Nobody leaves the house until daily deaths of everything breach zero. No pubs. No sport. No family. No friends. Just a government sponsored food parcel delivery by drone the same day your bins go out.
 
RandySavage said:
Classy mate, real classy. Show me another country in the world that has had a second wave? I'll wait.
Show me scientific proof that a second wave is coming bearing in mind the models were all based on a flu epidemic and not a coronavirus one?
Also whilst we are at it show me the science that has changed from 98-99% of people only suffering a mild to moderate illness to something more deadlier?

Infact **** it shut everything, shops, supermarkets, petrol stations, everything. Nobody leaves the house until daily deaths of everything breach zero. No pubs. No sport. No family. No friends. Just a government sponsored food parcel delivery by drone the same day your bins go out.
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It seems to be your obsession and you keep asking for proof, despite all the badly hit countries still being in the first wave.

It's like me asking you: show me one person who enjoyed Halloween 2020.
 
You said I wanted a second wave, show me where I said this please or retract the lie.

By all means take what the government tell you, that's not for me to decide. I on the other hand along with many others will use my own free will and intuition to make decisions.
 
Billy Horner said:
Today's headline analysis:

• 655 hospital reported infections in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 787
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections decreases by 7.6%, following 3.7% decrease yesterday (and 22nd consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections is 24.5% lower than one week ago (from 21.9% lower yesterday) and 42.1% lower than two weeks ago (from 42.4% lower yesterday and 50.8% lower 7 days ago)
• 377 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, slightly down from 412 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings increases by 2.2%, following 2.9% decrease yesterday (and 2nd consecutive daily increase)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 26.1% lower than one week ago (from 30.3% lower yesterday) and 40.1% lower than two weeks ago (from 43.5% lower yesterday and 36.8% lower 7 days ago)
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Should have added that, whilst the 7-day average for new deaths has increased for two consecutive days, my gut instinct is that this is still part of a correction from the bank holiday weekend. The average fell by nearly 20% when the numbers until 5pm on Bank Holiday Monday were announced, which was clearly due to administrative delays, so it's probably to be expected that it will take 2/3 days to catch up.
 
RandySavage said:
You said I wanted a second wave, show me where I said this please or retract the lie.

By all means take what the government tell you, that's not for me to decide. I on the other hand along with many others will use my own free will and intuition to make decisions.
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You always talk about it, everytime figures are mentioned. You keep mentioning the second wave as if willing it into existence.
Not sure why. Also not sure why you keep asking me for evidence of the second wave when countries are still in the first wave?
 
Billy Horner said:
Should have added that, whilst the 7-day average for new deaths has increased for two consecutive days, my gut instinct is that this is still part of a correction from the bank holiday weekend. The average fell by nearly 20% when the numbers until 5pm on Bank Holiday Monday were announced, which was clearly due to administrative delays, so it's probably to be expected that it will take 2/3 days to catch up.
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I hope you're right. There was a clear downwards trend of late. That seems to have stalled and this week the numbers are creeping back up. It's making me nervous.
 
SmallTown said:
I hope you're right. There was a clear downwards trend of late. That seems to have stalled and this week the numbers are creeping back up. It's making me nervous.
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Even allowing for the past two days, the 7-day average is still 26% lower than it was a week ago and 40% lower than a fortnight ago, so I still think we're moving in the right direction. Also, althought yesterday and today did see slight increases, they were only around 2%, which is pretty small in the scheme of things (and significantly smaller than the increases we were seeing before the peak).
 
As of 9am on 29 May, there have been 4,043,686 tests, with 131,458 tests on 28 May.

271,222 people have tested positive.

As of 5pm on 28 May, of those tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, 38,161 have died. This new figure includes deaths in all settings, not just in hospitals. The equivalent figure under the old measure would have been 30,564.

0.75% increase in positive tests.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 718 hospital reported infections in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 655
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections decreases by 10.2%, following 7.6% decrease yesterday (and 23rd consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections is 31.8% lower than one week ago (from 24.5% lower yesterday) and 44.4% lower than two weeks ago (from 42.1% lower yesterday and 48.2% lower 7 days ago)
• 324 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, down from 377 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 1.5%, following 2.2% increase yesterday (and 2 consecutive daily increases)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 26.2% lower than one week ago (from 26.1% lower yesterday) and 35.9% lower than two weeks ago (from 40.1% lower yesterday and 35.8% lower 7 days ago)
 
As of 9am on 30 May, there have been 4,171,408 tests, with 127,722 tests on 29 May.

272,826 people have tested positive.

As of 5pm on 29 May, of those tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, 38,376 have died. This new figure includes deaths in all settings, not just in hospitals. The equivalent figure under the old measure would have been 30,742.

0.9% increase in positive tests.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 869 hospital reported infections in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 718
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections decreases by 7.2%, following 10.2% decrease yesterday (and 24th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new hospital reported infections is 34.6% lower than one week ago (from 31.8% lower yesterday) and 47.7% lower than two weeks ago (from 44.4% lower yesterday and 48.2% lower 7 days ago)
• 215 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, down from 324 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 3.8%, following 1.5% decrease yesterday (and 2nd consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 23.0% lower than one week ago (from 26.2% lower yesterday) and 40.9% lower than two weeks ago (from 35.9% lower yesterday and 36.1% lower 7 days ago)
 
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