The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

Randy said:
Kids might be paying the price again.

www.hsj.co.uk

Exclusive: Government alert over surge in respiratory virus affecting babies and toddlers

The chief medical officers of the four UK nations are set to warn about a surge in admissions of severely ill, very young children later this year, due to the resurgence of a respiratory virus which has been suppressed by anti-covid measures, HSJ can reveal.
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Huge can of worms.
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That to me reads more like those that could have had it previous, will now get it later, so basically the same number, but over a different timescale. At leas they know it's coming though, so can prepare.

It is probably better that they didn't get that when the hospitals were rammed full of covid though, and we would have had more covid, had we not locked down.

Same with adults and not getting flu etc, as lockdown measures prevented it. The measures might have saved 50k people from flu or other viruses, yet covid made up for that (likey with others) and then still put us into massive excess, the excess and covid figure isn't the true number for covid, it has to be higher (as others have to have been saved in other areas).
Those 50k are still vulnerable, and always were, it's a reason why covid and the excess don't tell the full picture, it's actually worse, the full covid death toll won't be realised until other typical viruses have had their typical spread.
 
Andy_W said:
That to me reads more like those that could have had it previous, will now get it later, so basically the same number, but over a different timescale. At leas they know it's coming though, so can prepare.

It is probably better that they didn't get that when the hospitals were rammed full of covid though, and we would have had more covid, had we not locked down.

Same with adults and not getting flu etc, as lockdown measures prevented it. The measures might have saved 50k people from flu or other viruses, yet covid made up for that (likey with others) and then still put us into massive excess, the excess and covid figure isn't the true number for covid, it has to be higher (as others have to have been saved in other areas).
Those 50k are still vulnerable, and always were, it's a reason why covid and the excess don't tell the full picture, it's actually worse, the full covid death toll won't be realised until other typical viruses have had their typical spread.
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Reads to me like more kids will be susceptible as hundreds of thousands haven't had the chance to build up immune systems to fight viruses as schools have been shut.
 
Laughing said:
Who knew, you ease lockdown and communicable disease increases. It shouldn't come as a surprise.
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Never was, definitely isn't and never will be.

The thing is lockdown deniers were ignorant that lockdown had been preventing others from getting ill from another virus, at the same time. It replaced them and did, far, far more damage.

Not locking down would have certainly added more covid, just like the experts said. Even more so as it turns out we (and no other country) did not have "herd immunity" as a minority claimed.

Adding more covid would have overwhelmed the NHS, which would not have been good for covid sufferers (it would have put up the fatality rate) or those with RSV, or Flu or anything else, had we not locked down (who was meant to treat them?). The thing is, all of those would have come at the same time, and we didn't have the staff, we couldn't even man the nightingales.
 
Andy_W said:
Never was, definitely isn't and never will be.

The thing is lockdown deniers were ignorant that lockdown had been preventing others from getting ill from another virus, at the same time. It replaced them and did, far, far more damage.

Not locking down would have certainly added more covid, just like the experts said. Even more so as it turns out we (and no other country) did not have "herd immunity" as a minority claimed.

Adding more covid would have overwhelmed the NHS, which would not have been good for covid sufferers (it would have put up the fatality rate) or those with RSV, or Flu or anything else, had we not locked down (who was meant to treat them?). The thing is, all of those would have come at the same time, and we didn't have the staff, we couldn't even man the nightingales.
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Not sure how much other vital infection would have been around without lockdown due to viral interference, which I don't really understand.
 
Randy said:
Reads to me like more kids will be susceptible as hundreds of thousands haven't had the chance to build up immune systems to fight viruses as schools have been shut.
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Hmm, I don't see it that way. The way I see it is you can't get immunity to covid, without actually getting covid or getting a covid vaccine. Same with Flu, which changes each year, so the flu shot changes each year trying to predict what will come (and build up advanced immunity).

Seems like they're well aware of it, and have treatment lined up https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-conte...icy-statement-re-Palivizumab-RSV_Oct-2020.pdf
 
Andy_W said:
Hmm, I don't see it that way. The way I see it is you can't get immunity to covid, without actually getting covid or getting a covid vaccine. Same with Flu, which changes each year, so the flu shot changes each year trying to predict what will come (and build up advanced immunity).

Seems like they're well aware of it, and have treatment lined up https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-conte...icy-statement-re-Palivizumab-RSV_Oct-2020.pdf
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Hope all the relevant authorities have planned for this better than the covid response.
 
Laughing said:
Not sure how much other vital infection would have been around without lockdown due to viral interference, which I don't really understand.
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Yeah, me neither, I would bet my house it wasn't less though.

The lockdown may have actually set some virus back years, or done away with some almost completely. The pandemic has certainly sped up treatment and vaccine procedures, mRNA development etc.
 
Randy said:
Hope all the relevant authorities have planned for this better than the covid response.
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The NHS have done their bit, and done it extremely well, I trust they will have this in hand (as well as their resources/ funding/ staffing/ nurse avialibility allows, anyway).

It's not the response of the authorities that's been the main problem, it's denying there was a problem in the first place, not listening to those with more experience (or the health authorities) and not being pro-active. If you fail to plan, plan to fail etc. You don't fall off the ladder if you don't climb it.

Hopefully, they've learned some lessons, as nobody wants to go through a year of this again, it's been ****.
 
As of 9am on 21 May, 4,457,923 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 2,829 (2,193 on corresponding day last week).

9 deaths were reported today (17 on corresponding day last week).

151,904 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 7 May)

37,518,614 have had a first dose vaccination. 268,251 first dose vaccinations yesterday. 21,659,783 have had a second dose. 420,312 second dose vaccinations today.
 
bear66 said:
As of 9am on 21 May, 4,457,923 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 2,829 (2,193 on corresponding day last week).

9 deaths were reported today (17 on corresponding day last week).

151,904 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 7 May)

37,518,614 have had a first dose vaccination. 268,251 first dose vaccinations yesterday. 21,659,783 have had a second dose. 420,312 second dose vaccinations today.
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668k doses in one day. Fantastic work 💪

By the way, I've got an incredible stat to share but I'm having a cuppa first 👍
 
BoroFur said:
Bit more than that Bear.
First consecutive 7 day run of single digit reported deaths since the very beginning of the pandemic.
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That's great news

Cases are creeping up though. Mind you we have relaxed restrictions so I guess there is correlation there
 
SmallTown said:
That's great news

Cases are creeping up though. Mind you we have relaxed restrictions so I guess there is correlation there
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But with the acceleration of the vaccine roll-out and confirmation that the vaccine works against all variants how likely is it that increased cases will result in greater hospitalizations and deaths?
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 2,829 new cases reported in 24-hour period, slightly down from yesterday's 2,874
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 3.9% to 2,392 per day, following 1.4% increase yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 6.1% higher than one week ago (from 0.2% higher yesterday) and 16.1% higher than two weeks ago (from 12.5% higher yesterday and 1.7% higher 7 days ago)
• 9 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, slightly up from 7 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 16.0% to 6 per day, following 7.4% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 40.0% lower than one week ago (from 26.5% lower yesterday) and 48.1% lower than two weeks ago (from 38.3% lower yesterday and 47.0% lower 7 days ago)
 
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