Norman_Conquest
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I enjoyed watching that with one eye on the Boro game. Italy are better than a lot of people give them credit for and have been involved in some exciting games this tournament.
Shame about Farrell's kicking because the score didn't really reflect the game.Good game that. Not exciting but a solid ark wrestle of s game. The amount of turnovers England won was immense. I like that level of steel and ability to scrap for the balls we shouldn't have
Yeah it was poor today. Although I’ll hold my hands up and say the rest of his game was excellent. Winning the ball back a couple of times isn’t his job but he did it anyway, and that something Smith wouldn’t have done. When he’s kicking like that I wonder if they shouldn’t have given the tee to Slade or StewardShame about Farrell's kicking because the score didn't really reflect the game.
Fuming. It's a bad sign that Borthwick is going away from a style of rugby that is engaging to watch. Especially against France who like an open game too. Could understand it more for Ireland. Defo need the steel of Farrell in that one.Smalltown - What do you think about Smith being left out of the squad for the France game?
Smith left out of England squad as Ford returns
Marcus Smith is left out of England's training squad before the Six Nations match against France, with George Ford returning.www.bbc.co.uk
Disappointing decision but I find Smith a luxury player. He wouldn’t worry the All Blacks. That said he should have been used as an impact player.Fuming. It's a bad sign that Borthwick is going away from a style of rugby that is engaging to watch. Especially against France who like an open game too. Could understand it more for Ireland. Defo need the steel of Farrell in that one.
I would disagree with that. Just because he’s creative doesn’t mean he can’t put a shift in. There’s a lot more to his game than thatDisappointing decision but I find Smith a luxury player. He wouldn’t worry the All Blacks. That said he should have been used as an impact player.
As a Quinns supporter I wouldn't expect any other view but I tend to agree with Abel that defensively he's not worth his position in the side and obviously Borthwick feels the same.I would disagree with that. Just because he’s creative doesn’t mean he can’t put a shift in. There’s a lot more to his game than that
That’s kind of untrue though isn’t it? He tackles way bigger than his size suggests.As a Quinns supporter I wouldn't expect any other view but I tend to agree with Abel that defensively he's not worth his position in the side and obviously Borthwick feels the same.
You mean you disagree. Fair enough. It’s an opinion whether you think it’s untrue or not.That’s kind of untrue though isn’t it? He tackles way bigger than his size suggests.
I mean there is this thing about Smith being a luxury player which I just don't get. You can have flare in rugby but still put a shift in for the team. Kind of offensive to say the ABs wouldn't worry about him. I think they would. Only really Ireland and maybe SA would prefer him over Farrell becadie, yes Farrell is better in an arm wrestle but that doesn't mean Smith is bad. I just think it's unfair to think just because he's creative he's a luxury. I've seen him put the shoulder in on much bigger opponentsYou mean you disagree. Fair enough. It’s an opinion whether you think it’s untrue or not.
Best luxury player in6nations is Finn Russell and Scotland play in a way to accommodate him whereas England struggle to do so,especially with Farrell in centreI mean there is this thing about Smith being a luxury player which I just don't get. You can have flare in rugby but still put a shift in for the team. Kind of offensive to say the ABs wouldn't worry about him. I think they would. Only really Ireland and maybe SA would prefer him over Farrell becadie, yes Farrell is better in an arm wrestle but that doesn't mean Smith is bad. I just think it's unfair to think just because he's creative he's a luxury. I've seen him put the shoulder in on much bigger opponents
Yeah good point. He seemed focused yesterday. Pretty creative. Funny I saw him chase down a kick and Tey and force a turnover too and wondered if luxury players do that!It is good to see he hasn't allowed being dropped to affect him mentally.