Long Covid -could this be the real legacy of the pandemic

Living in fear is not healthy.
As John Lennon once sang, "Living is easy with eye's closed, misunderstanding all you see". Yes being ignorant to the dangers might seem a simple easy way to lead your life, but it will increase your risk of catching, dying or getting long term covid effects. It will also increase your chance of passing that on. The ONLY reason we don't have 300k+ deaths is because the government and scientists told us to fear this.
 
The ONLY reason we don't have 300k+ deaths is because the government and scientists told us to fear this.

Citation needed as individual is claiming opinion as fact despite total lack of evidence.
P.s. Lennon wouldn't be down for the fear and the lockdowns my friend.
 
Have a read about people's mental health, the economic suffering and also people suffering other medical conditions it will give you a different aspect if nothing else. 👍🏻
I meant your post about people loosing on average one year to covid
 
I meant your post about people loosing on average one year to covid

Oh you don't care about the other stuff cool, have a read on the fact that covid is taking on average 1 year from people who sadly pass away from it... It will give you a different aspect if nothing else. 👍🏻
 
Oh you don't care about the other stuff cool, have a read on the fact that covid is taking on average 1 year from people who sadly pass away from it... It will give you a different aspect if nothing else. 👍🏻

Of course I care about the rest, that quote was just something I hadnt read before. Was just wondering if it was factual or if you just made it up
 
Citation needed as individual is claiming opinion as fact despite total lack of evidence.
P.s. Lennon wouldn't be down for the fear and the lockdowns my friend.
Alvez are you trying to claim that a) the spread of the disease is not exponential without control measures, b) that the NHS has a finite capacity, which once exceeded increases risk of mortality, c) that the lockdown and control measures we have endured for 8 months have had an insignificant impact in the mortality rate? 300K+ was a finger in the air, but over a long enough time span without any control measures would be met.

Lennon would be 80 year old tomorrow, he would have locked himself away, stayed in bed with Yoko for 8 months, it would have been the only safe place for him.
 
There is literally 0 data for your claims, fact. 😉
There is data that at least 40k people have died, and the death rates during lockdown and pre-post lockdown show that without controls the death rate dramatically increases. So, yes, there is evidence that without effort the deaths would increase exponentially, 300K is a pretty conservative estimate if you just let the disease run rampant with zero effort to control, because we would breach hospital capacity, and drugs, plasma and every other medicinal treatment would run out. The data while being incomplete shows the minimum deaths would be much much worse than we have seen.

It also doesn't look at how we would handle long covid health issues which would hit millions of people at the same time without any controls in place.
 
There is data that at least 40k people have died, and the death rates during lockdown and pre-post lockdown show that without controls the death rate dramatically increases. So, yes, there is evidence that without effort the deaths would increase exponentially, 300K is a pretty conservative estimate if you just let the disease run rampant with zero effort to control, because we would breach hospital capacity, and drugs, plasma and every other medicinal treatment would run out. The data while being incomplete shows the minimum deaths would be much much worse than we have seen.

It also doesn't look at how we would handle long covid health issues which would hit millions of people at the same time without any controls in place.

This entire post is devoid of that thing you're claiming, evidence. Just stop and let's agree to disagree.
 
Who's it determined by then? You?

It's not my fault you don't believe in shaping your own future.

You're out shaping you're own future merrily driving at 50mph on the A66, until a reckless person driving at 100mph crashes into you changing your and your loved ones life forever.

You're not in charge of your own future if you encounter someone who drives at 100mph believing they are just shaping their own future.
 
Ok my friend show me one that I've come out with. Challenge accepted

Well you pushed the Great Barrington Declaration for one, which has absolutely zero evidence or detail attached to it. You know, that minor detail that most scientists, virologists, epidemiologists etc have been calling it out over.
Anyway, enough from me on the topic. Just thought it a bit of an open goal you questioning others over data and evidence, and I know you are a big enough personality to be able to take a bit of ribbing. Nothing significant meant by it.
 
I didn't read that article, sorry, was looking at something else I thought you linked to. I'll have a look and get back, it may change my opinion.
Read the article Smog Chorus, it doesn't address the central point I made, which was the question : "What would have happened with no lock down?" That is the comparison that you would have to make. The graphs scale is wrong to clearly see the effect that lockdown had.
 
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