Latest Kantar poll - Tories 13 points ahead

BoroMart said:
what ever you think Starmer is or isn't, it's patently clear he isn't the evil, lazy, corrupt despot that is Johnson, and that is a massive improvement regardless of anything else
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He's all of those things mate. He's just not as brazen about it as Boris is and has a lot of people fooled in to thinking that he's an honest, decent bloke. He isn't.
 
BoroMart said:
I don't believe he is, happy to look at any evidence though
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I'd only be repeating myself for the thousandth time and boring the hell out of people if I were to give you the very long list of all of the reasons why I think that he's a snake. I get why people want to believe in him. I'm never going to be able to persuade you that you've got it wrong. Nobody has ever changed anybody else's mind about politics on a message board.
 
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Labour don't need to "win", and they can't win enough seats on their own with a split "left of tories" vote, but they can get a major say if the Tories don't "win". Tories have literally burned every bridge there is, they're still on fire and they keep adding petrol.

If the Tories don't win enough seats to get over the line by bribing a very minor party, they probably won't get in/ be able to form a government. Who are they going to have a better chance of a coalition with than Labour?

Just need Labour to team up with two or three of the others, or we just end up with no majority control which wouldn't be worse than what we have now, not for those in lower to middle classes, and that might drag even more Tories back. There's a **** load of people who think they earn enough to be a Tory, but are now finding out they're not, and more will before 2024.

Tories are down about 5%, 30-35 seats, and they're still goign to trend down till 2024, if they lose another 15-20 seats they could be done for. I think they will get less than 300.

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bumface said:
I'd only be repeating myself for the thousandth time and boring the hell out of people if I were to give you the very long list of all of the reasons why I think that he's a snake. I get why people want to believe in him. I'm never going to be able to persuade you that you've got it wrong. Nobody has ever changed anybody else's mind about politics on a message board.
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The only thing you repeat is the constant cowardice of throwing really malicious smears and insults towards a man and then failing to justify any of them.
 
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