Chris Wilder

We've seen the same tactics Reading employed today, time and again over the years. We look as though we don't have a clue how to counteract 11 men behind the ball. Any team coach watching the game today has the perfect blueprint on how to play against us.

Having said that, Wilder should be given all the time he needs to work out our best formation and tactics.
 
Cosmonaut said:
Got a bad feeling about this. I didn't expect we'd lose again today and thought we'd be off with our first win.

Wilder sounded as angry as expected. Re; Fry, apparently, there's been a 'falling out' and that's not me being 'ITK' but one of the lads on OneBoro who tends to be on the money with most snippets has repeated it a few times in the past couple of weeks that between Wilder and Fry, the relationship isn't good

I don't like that if true as suggests there possibly could be more to it, I hope things aren't unhappy in general behind the scenes. Naturally, they will all be in a low mood with our start this season, but I mean unhappiness anyway with the squad and Wilder in general

As mentioned in the thread or the other Wilder one, something has been 'off' since the Burnley carry-on. It certainly has, nothing has improved since, and if only gotten worse

There's no way we could change manager at this stage now either, it would create a right mess to state the obvious ... so I don't agree with some calls for Wilder's job out and about though I have always said I haven't felt I can trust him ever since the Burnley link was going around and he did nothing to make it clear he has a job to do here. 'Mid-to-long-term' as he said, I believe ... I thought his enthusiasm and commitment would be reignited with a successful Summer transfer window, and all that was now just water under the bridge

I still hope that is what happens and he succeeds, but something isn't right at the moment. I am hoping it's just a case of waiting for our first win and not getting the rub of the green mostly. but we badly need another few quality additions to change our luck. Certainly, if we are still planning on challenging in the top-six

So I am certainly not 'Wilder out!' but at the same time, I wish I could get an idea of how things are going at Rockliffe in general as I am feeling uneasy more and more as each game goes by
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The thing is right sack Wilder because he is being a wrecking ball on this club. He has already lost us Tavernier now he will sell Fry Mcnair Dijksteel etc. He will replace them with rubbish like lenihan mowatt and Mcgree who are trash. He be sacked and new manager will want a new squad in January.
 
edinboro said:
Wilder went straight down the tunnel after th match. Didn't even face the fans. Left the players to it. Bottles gone in my opinion.

He looked to have no idea today on what to do.
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I’d have to agree on this as the team looked apathetic everywhere, even the subs didn’t make a difference. I’m not too sure if he got the tactics wrong but one thing is for sure the team just can’t do the basics.

My observations for the first 5 games the team just aren’t tackling or passing with any bite and when they do they give up a foul or just lose the ball. These are fundamentals as we know but the team lacks a focal point up front.

Currently we are full of sideways passes and when we do push the ball forward we don’t have that guy who can hold the ball or win a foul or lay it off.

Other pointers from today — McGree is never a number 9 and if he is it doesn’t seem to suit him. Mowatt was terrible today, I think I counted one successful forward pass from him and then he takes free kicks when Paddy or maybe even Giles could have a dig from outside the box.

Chuba might have made a difference but honestly if the passing and tacking doesn’t improve we’ll be on the end of some hidings.

Defensively, let’s be honest when they’re put under pressure they seem to panic or not be able to make an effective clearance. Today’s goal came from a result of poor clearance (Steffan’s) and then an untidy header with our defence seemingly static when the ball fell outside the box.

Lastly sometimes you just have scrap and fight for a win currently this team doesn’t have that in them right now I’m afraid to say.,
 
Cosmonaut said:
Got a bad feeling about this. I didn't expect we'd lose again today and thought we'd be off with our first win.

Wilder sounded as angry as expected. Re; Fry, apparently, there's been a 'falling out' and that's not me being 'ITK' but one of the lads on OneBoro who tends to be on the money with most snippets has repeated it a few times in the past couple of weeks that between Wilder and Fry, the relationship isn't good

I don't like that if true as suggests there possibly could be more to it, I hope things aren't unhappy in general behind the scenes. Naturally, they will all be in a low mood with our start this season, but I mean unhappiness anyway with the squad and Wilder in general

As mentioned in the thread or the other Wilder one, something has been 'off' since the Burnley carry-on. It certainly has, nothing has improved since, and if only gotten worse

There's no way we could change manager at this stage now either, it would create a right mess to state the obvious ... so I don't agree with some calls for Wilder's job out and about though I have always said I haven't felt I can trust him ever since the Burnley link was going around and he did nothing to make it clear he has a job to do here. 'Mid-to-long-term' as he said, I believe ... I thought his enthusiasm and commitment would be reignited with a successful Summer transfer window, and all that was now just water under the bridge

I still hope that is what happens and he succeeds, but something isn't right at the moment. I am hoping it's just a case of waiting for our first win and not getting the rub of the green mostly. but we badly need another few quality additions to change our luck. Certainly, if we are still planning on challenging in the top-six

So I am certainly not 'Wilder out!' but at the same time, I wish I could get an idea of how things are going at Rockliffe in general as I am feeling uneasy more and more as each game goes by
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But if he can’t ‘manage’ our best players and fry is one of them then the problem is wilder surely. Get the fcuka out…..confidently clueless is what I say….
 
The gazette will be instructed to start questioning him to turn the fans against him. Only signing players the recruitment team identified before you’re manager is not backing the manager. Warnock plays a different way to Warnock yet these players coming in we’re targeted for Warnock. He won’t last the season. It’s hard to do what you’re good at when everything around you isn’t pulling in the same direction.
 
Cosmonaut said:
Got a bad feeling about this. I didn't expect we'd lose again today and thought we'd be off with our first win.

Wilder sounded as angry as expected. Re; Fry, apparently, there's been a 'falling out' and that's not me being 'ITK' but one of the lads on OneBoro who tends to be on the money with most snippets has repeated it a few times in the past couple of weeks that between Wilder and Fry, the relationship isn't good

I don't like that if true as suggests there possibly could be more to it, I hope things aren't unhappy in general behind the scenes. Naturally, they will all be in a low mood with our start this season, but I mean unhappiness anyway with the squad and Wilder in general

As mentioned in the thread or the other Wilder one, something has been 'off' since the Burnley carry-on. It certainly has, nothing has improved since, and if only gotten worse

There's no way we could change manager at this stage now either, it would create a right mess to state the obvious ... so I don't agree with some calls for Wilder's job out and about though I have always said I haven't felt I can trust him ever since the Burnley link was going around and he did nothing to make it clear he has a job to do here. 'Mid-to-long-term' as he said, I believe ... I thought his enthusiasm and commitment would be reignited with a successful Summer transfer window, and all that was now just water under the bridge

I still hope that is what happens and he succeeds, but something isn't right at the moment. I am hoping it's just a case of waiting for our first win and not getting the rub of the green mostly. but we badly need another few quality additions to change our luck. Certainly, if we are still planning on challenging in the top-six

So I am certainly not 'Wilder out!' but at the same time, I wish I could get an idea of how things are going at Rockliffe in general as I am feeling uneasy more and more as each game goes by
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Relationship with Fry is not good cause hes not playing thats natural for people to fall out, Fry isnt doing enough for the manager, so hes not in the team, the manager is testing his character, show me you can be better if he doesnt start then he hasnt done as the manager asked and if he leaves so be it!
 
BoroMad87 said:
Relationship with Fry is not good cause hes not playing thats natural for people to fall out, Fry isnt doing enough for the manager, so hes not in the team, the manager is testing his character, show me you can be better if he doesnt start then he hasnt done as the manager asked and if he leaves so be it!
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I can’t see him getting back in the team now. Reckon he’ll be gone by the close of the window.
 
Wiseman_Vaughn said:
We've seen the same tactics Reading employed today, time and again over the years. We look as though we don't have a clue how to counteract 11 men behind the ball. Any team coach watching the game today has the perfect blueprint on how to play against us.

Having said that, Wilder should be given all the time he needs to work out our best formation and tactics.
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But we created enough chances today to score, Lenihan header, watmore header and Hoppe chance, all should of been goals and that without a nailed on Penalty
 
Philly-Red said:
I can’t see him getting back in the team now. Reckon he’ll be gone by the close of the window.
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I hope not, I would like to see him stay and fight for his place, however if someone was to offer decent money I wouldnt be against selling, If we had a player coming inn!
 
There seems to me to be a rift between some of the senior players and him fry for one he's been highly critical mcnair as well. He's seems happy to hang out some players in public and protect others mainly his siginings. What was he thinking playing Forse on his own today utterly stupid
 
You can't break down sides who sit deep with weak dwarfs up front

Wilder has made a huge mistake in not signing a big potato up top who can win aerial duels just to shake it up a little
 
Erimus74 said:
What do you mean disaster?

We dont have a divine right to win any game, we certainly dont have a divine right to achieve a playoff spot, we're competing against teams who think they too should be automatic playoff spot

A manager will go to the board & ask for money to buy certain players, every manager has been given enough funds, if certain playets dont want to come here thats not down to the club, we're a top 8/9 place Championship club

Nowhere near a disaster at all, maybe the playets hes brought in aernt good enough, time will tell
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We went from the premier league to the brink of league 1 and completely skint in just over 3 seasons. We released 2 strikers we paid 25 million for on free transfers last season.
We have made a loss on the majority of our signings in recent years
Almost all of the managerial decisions have been wrong since we were relegated in 09

Yes Gibson has done so much good for this club but you can’t really say the day to day running of the club has been anything but a disaster in recent years
 
BoroMad87 said:
Relationship with Fry is not good cause hes not playing thats natural for people to fall out, Fry isnt doing enough for the manager, so hes not in the team, the manager is testing his character, show me you can be better if he doesnt start then he hasnt done as the manager asked and if he leaves so be it!
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Yeah, I get that but I am only passing on what I read from a guy who is normally a trustworthy source .. He has just stated that there's been a fallout but posted it somewhat cryptically like there's more to it than just being left out the side. Which I hope there isn't ... but as my post explained, it just makes you wonder, as you look at the state of how we have started this season, I am just saying, I hope behind-the-scenes things with Wilder and the team, in general, are still OK and there's not unrest for any other reason throughout the set-up

Anyone looking at our start and form going back into last season is bound to have questions, naturally ... I read how many wins from the last 18 games or so earlier, it makes for worrying reading

A few others on here have dragged up my earlier post and said they think Wilder should go as it is the players he has brought in, etc, so his fault .. I am not so sure

Hoppe, Forss ... those two signings to me I had never known a thing about until we were linked, and find it hard to believe Wilder is directly responsible for having brought them in. I can't see either being a hit, particularly the former

Lenihan, Steffen I would imagine are more signings he perhaps has been more directly involved in, but otherwise, I don't know what is going on regarding recruitment

We know Muniz is not a signing he is responsible for as Muniz was our main target under Warnock last Summer and Fulham poached him :ROFLMAO:

Regardless, it is clear we need at least another 2 or 3 quality players to make a big improvement in this side because as I look at the squad right now, it just is not good enough. Somehow it feels like we have regressed to Warnock times when I am reading the starting line ups :unsure:

Losing Tav is going to hurt more than fans expected unless we get very lucky in the remaining days of the transfer window. I hope we get busy and sort it out. I hope another ten games time we can all look back at this thread and wonder what all the fuss was about :ROFLMAO:
 
2 wins in our last 14, the rot started with the Burnley rumours he wouldn't dismiss, something isn't right imo. Hope this blows up in my face and I'm talking ***** but something feels rotten, have we ever had such a bad start to a season in any league?
 
Cosmonaut said:
Yeah, I get that but I am only passing on what I read from a guy who is normally a trustworthy source .. He has just stated that there's been a fallout but posted it somewhat cryptically like there's more to it than just being left out the side. Which I hope there isn't ... but as my post explained, it just makes you wonder, as you look at the state of how we have started this season, I am just saying, I hope behind-the-scenes things with Wilder and the team, in general, are still OK and there's not unrest for any other reason throughout the set-up

Anyone looking at our start and form going back into last season is bound to have questions, naturally ... I read how many wins from the last 18 games or so earlier, it makes for worrying reading

A few others on here have dragged up my earlier post and said they think Wilder should go as it is the players he has brought in, etc, so his fault .. I am not so sure

Hoppe, Forss ... those two signings to me I had never known a thing about until we were linked, and find it hard to believe Wilder is directly responsible for having brought them in. I can't see either being a hit, particularly the former

Lenihan, Steffen I would imagine are more signings he perhaps has been more directly involved in, but otherwise, I don't know what is going on regarding recruitment

We know Muniz is not a signing he is responsible for as Muniz was our main target under Warnock last Summer and Fulham poached him :ROFLMAO:

Regardless, it is clear we need at least another 2 or 3 quality players to make a big improvement in this side because as I look at the squad right now, it just is not good enough. Somehow it feels like we have regressed to Warnock times when I am reading the starting line ups :unsure:

Losing Tav is going to hurt more than fans expected unless we get very lucky in the remaining days of the transfer window. I hope we get busy and sort it out. I hope another ten games time we can all look back at this thread and wonder what all the fuss was about :ROFLMAO:
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I know when youbsee the stats it doesnt make great reading but this season West brom first half boro should of been 2 nil up, then westbrom come back into the game, point a fair result although if we were 2 nil up I would hope we would of seen the game out.

Qpr 25 minutes of madness but then all Boro and should of took a point.

Barnsley weakned team bad mistake at the end should of been a draw and to penalties.

Sheff U too good teams going at it point fair result.

Stoke all one way bad finshing and defending by Boro, should of won.

Reading, poor overall but still created enough chances should of been a point.

My point is in all these games the teams hasnt looked like a team not playing for the manager, yes players out of position, plays a little injured or working there fitness but they are all trying to make a difference.

Things will change we just have to keep going, the team will get stronger and we have to stay with the manager.

When results are going your way, rumours etc always start, sometimes in Middlesbrough its like people would rather have negativity than positivity, hopefully this is our dip in the season, we all new it would be tough without recruitment being finished!
 
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