Carricks refusal to change system

From the horses mouth in todays presser. Said the system suits the players. I fear he's doomed if hes not prepared to change a system which is clearly not working.
The system doesn't work as no system would work, as the players are not good enough for the level we all thought we were going to be aiming for (play-offs?), or they are not used to being a team......yet. The only thing which can fix the latter is time, and you can't buy time.

We've probably lost our 4 best players, and none of the replacements are our current best players. Players who we used to consider as "alright" are now being asked to be Championship stars, it's a tough ask.

Lods of people are crying to play McGree, yet last year lots of people were crying when he was playing, he's still the same player, he's ok, but that's it.

Loads of people are crying to play Forss up top, but loads didn't want him there last year as he didn't do enough there, plus we would also then need to find someone to play on the right.

None of the new recruits (and there are a lot of them) have been with the side all that long, none of them were expensive or had much of a proven track record at this level. It's unrealistic to expect everything to be rosy, or the same as last year, due to that.

Changing the system to one which doesn't suit the players who suited the system last year, or doesn't suit the players specifically purchased for the current system, will only make things worse, and will then also get the fans on the back for playing lump ball or whatever, and still getting bad results.

Our league position and points haul do not reflect the actual true ability of the team, or what we would have deserved over the course of the 6 games, it's just a result of the total points haul we have accrued, which is subject to a fair amount of variance (I hope), as it's early days.

The goalkeeper, defence and midfield are good enough to keep the ball out of the net more than it has been doing, and you would expect our new no1 striker to be able to finish his dinner. The latter seems to be trying too hard, but I think he'll come good (enough) when he calms down.

I think a lot of it is just down to variance, luck, and a lack of time with the new squad, so things are not quite as cohesive as they could be. An uncohesive side will struggle to scrape results more than a cohesive one would, for the same ability level.

Our current level appears to be around mid-table to me, on the evidence of what I've seen of the ability level of the players who have replaced high-ability players who are now playing Champions League or Premier League football.

Some of our reliable and previous key performers, who we did retain, are only getting older, or further passed their peaks. Players like Howson, McNair, Crooks etc now seem to be in decline. Players like Fry haven't improved as we would have hoped (he does not look like a premier league player or defender). Players like Jones have had one or two issues behind the scenes. Players bought last year who we own, haven't really kicked on, yet, maybe they will, maybe they won't.

We will do a lot better results-wise in the coming months, but our ceiling has been significantly reduced in my opinion, or at least it appears that way at the minute.

We were having similar problems last year with Wilder, but that team was better, and had even worse luck. A key problem we had back then was Wilder couldn't get out of the hole, and the players looked down. I think Carrick is better suited to get us out of the hole, and keep the players motivated, he's already done it once last year.

The team we had after Christmas last year (for most of Carrick's games) was far better than the one we started the season with, due to the loans and the new loans don't seem half as good.

What I think has happened (where we are v what we deserve) is actually reflected in our "net xG actual" also, now I've checked. We're "net xG actual" -1 average per game, by far the worst in the league (more than double the next hardest hit team), it's like a handicap starting each game 1-0 down. We would be 7th based on xG. I don't think we deserve to be 7th, but think we deserve to be around mid table, and maybe people would be crying less then?


Carrick doesn't buy and sell the players, he just has to deal with the hand he's dealt, and we're doing enough to get some results, but for one reason or another, we're shipping double the goals we're expected to and scoring half the goals we're expected to. We're limiting chances (to a degree), and not scoring the ones we create.
 
It's ok the board intelligencia told me quite forcefully that we didn't need a right back 6 weeks ago.

Honestly right now I'd do a better job of managing the club. I stuck my neck on the line and was called crazy and foolish but I was incredibly on the money.
we didn't need a RB. I can't imagine you predicted Smith would get sent off first game back and injured again.
 
What about starting with Josh Coburn ?

Brian Clough was only brought into Boro’s side because of injury to another player.

Perhaps it is too much for Michael Carrick to risk his job on a youngster, but Boro are creating chances, and surely Josh would have put away one of the chances that Latte Lath misses ?
 
It's almost as if no one at the club has thought

" You know that fella who managed the runaway champions last year .. Anyone seen him on that Netflix thing ?
Maybe he had a point about us being gash without the ball "
 
The system doesn't work as no system would work, as the players are not good enough for the level we all thought we were going to be aiming for (play-offs?), or they are not used to being a team......yet. The only thing which can fix the latter is time, and you can't buy time.

We've probably lost our 4 best players, and none of the replacements are our current best players. Players who we used to consider as "alright" are now being asked to be Championship stars, it's a tough ask.

Lods of people are crying to play McGree, yet last year lots of people were crying when he was playing, he's still the same player, he's ok, but that's it.

Loads of people are crying to play Forss up top, but loads didn't want him there last year as he didn't do enough there, plus we would also then need to find someone to play on the right.

None of the new recruits (and there are a lot of them) have been with the side all that long, none of them were expensive or had much of a proven track record at this level. It's unrealistic to expect everything to be rosy, or the same as last year, due to that.

Changing the system to one which doesn't suit the players who suited the system last year, or doesn't suit the players specifically purchased for the current system, will only make things worse, and will then also get the fans on the back for playing lump ball or whatever, and still getting bad results.

Our league position and points haul do not reflect the actual true ability of the team, or what we would have deserved over the course of the 6 games, it's just a result of the total points haul we have accrued, which is subject to a fair amount of variance (I hope), as it's early days.

The goalkeeper, defence and midfield are good enough to keep the ball out of the net more than it has been doing, and you would expect our new no1 striker to be able to finish his dinner. The latter seems to be trying too hard, but I think he'll come good (enough) when he calms down.

I think a lot of it is just down to variance, luck, and a lack of time with the new squad, so things are not quite as cohesive as they could be. An uncohesive side will struggle to scrape results more than a cohesive one would, for the same ability level.

Our current level appears to be around mid-table to me, on the evidence of what I've seen of the ability level of the players who have replaced high-ability players who are now playing Champions League or Premier League football.

Some of our reliable and previous key performers, who we did retain, are only getting older, or further passed their peaks. Players like Howson, McNair, Crooks etc now seem to be in decline. Players like Fry haven't improved as we would have hoped (he does not look like a premier league player or defender). Players like Jones have had one or two issues behind the scenes. Players bought last year who we own, haven't really kicked on, yet, maybe they will, maybe they won't.

We will do a lot better results-wise in the coming months, but our ceiling has been significantly reduced in my opinion, or at least it appears that way at the minute.

We were having similar problems last year with Wilder, but that team was better, and had even worse luck. A key problem we had back then was Wilder couldn't get out of the hole, and the players looked down. I think Carrick is better suited to get us out of the hole, and keep the players motivated, he's already done it once last year.

The team we had after Christmas last year (for most of Carrick's games) was far better than the one we started the season with, due to the loans and the new loans don't seem half as good.

What I think has happened (where we are v what we deserve) is actually reflected in our "net xG actual" also, now I've checked. We're "net xG actual" -1 average per game, by far the worst in the league (more than double the next hardest hit team), it's like a handicap starting each game 1-0 down. We would be 7th based on xG. I don't think we deserve to be 7th, but think we deserve to be around mid table, and maybe people would be crying less then?


Carrick doesn't buy and sell the players, he just has to deal with the hand he's dealt, and we're doing enough to get some results, but for one reason or another, we're shipping double the goals we're expected to and scoring half the goals we're expected to. We're limiting chances (to a degree), and not scoring the ones we create.

There is no way , anyone could think watching that 1st 50mins at Blackburn..
" should be mid table us like "
 
Nothing to do with systems, we aren't getting overloaded or picked off in counter attack situations, like the death throws of wilders reign. It's more a matter that without the ball we are so easy to score against, and a lot of that is down to basic individual poor choices by the defenders and midfielders, this wont be solved by playing an extra guy up top or moving to wing backs or whatever. whether this is something that can be quickly turned round, or coached out of them remains to be seen.
 
I think a lot of it is just down to variance, luck, and a lack of time with the new squad, so things are not quite as cohesive as they could be. An uncohesive side will struggle to scrape results more than a cohesive one would, for the same ability level.
That's the fundamental question right now. Will the team come good with time and Carrick sticking with what he's doing or not? We can only judge from watching matches so we don't know what improvements they are seeing in training.

Judging by what we can see on the pitch, there is zero sign of improvement. You would expect a team experiencing this much change to struggle but not to this extent. We can see all the ways that the team is struggling but what we don't know is, why. Hopefully it is just a mix of bad luck and the team taking time to adjust to the changes. If the problems are deeper rooted and won't be solved through practice and experience then we have a real issue on our hands.
 
Of course we did. Smith was a solid pro and useful to have that experience and will to win but from a footballing and pace point of view he needed upgrading.
You can make that argument but considering we gave him a new contract earlier in the year and still had Dijksteel we were never going to sign another RB unless one left.
Smith did well last season - never a priority in the summer for me.
 
we didn't need a RB. I can't imagine you predicted Smith would get sent off first game back and injured again.
We have needed a right back since wilder left and we reverted to a flat back 4. Smith has been adequate, no more than that, was certainly a position that needed upgrading.
 
I think Howson needs to be dropped - he was at fault for WBA second goal (still galls me today) and I also think he was at fault for Blackburn's second as well - he hasn't got the legs anymore to keep up with the likes of Swift and Szmodic or whathever his name is - our defence is very exposed at times but maybe O'Brien in centre midfield can give our backline more protection.
 
Bangura and Engel are fit.. Smith and Dijksteel are still injured tho..

Dieng/Glover

Fry/McNair
Van Den Berg/Hannah
Lenihan/Clarke
Engel/Bangura

Howson/Barlaser
Hackney/O’Brien

Jones/Silvera
Latte Laff/Crooks
Rogers/McGree.

Forss/Greenwood/Coburn

Maybe just a wee twisteroo will be just the ticket.. there’s a few players that look more suited to slightly different positions..

Fry at right back? He’s getting forward plenty.. just gif that reason only.

RVDB at centre back.. he’s real tall

Latte Laff as an Akpom number 10
Rogers as the nee Tavernier
Forss as our main striker.. he can put a shift in.. also Greenwood looks more like Bamford than anyone else.. just his movement..

We’ve got super Michaels Carrick.. he knows exactly what we need.. Deal Fry at right back.. Marcus Forss in attack?

Do you have a list of players you copy and paste from for stuff like this and your transfers or do you type out each time? Be careful mate Carpal tunnel is a nighmare😜
 
Do you have a list of players you copy and paste from for stuff like this and your transfers or do you type out each time? Be careful mate Carpal tunnel is a nighmare😜
What like for the January transfer window?

20 Julian Carranza - Philadelphia - Loan
30 Josh Brownhill - Burnley - Loan
31 Ben Johnson - West Ham - Loan

4 Dan Barlaser - Loan
17 Paddy McNair - Loan
19 Josh Coburn - Loan

Yes.
 
I think Howson needs to be dropped - he was at fault for WBA second goal (still galls me today) and I also think he was at fault for Blackburn's second as well - he hasn't got the legs anymore to keep up with the likes of Swift and Szmodic or whathever his name is - our defence is very exposed at times but maybe O'Brien in centre midfield can give our backline more protection.
I think that's the elephant in the room.

If he wasn't captain, he wouldn't be starting at the moment in a position that probably requires (1 of the 2 to be ) the most athletic.
 
Carrick said nothing of the sort!

Context!
Context!
Context!

Read the full transcript of what he actually said [in context - not abstract] here:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 
we didn't need a RB. I can't imagine you predicted Smith would get sent off first game back and injured again.

No I predicted we needed a RB because Smith is a bottom half championship Right back, he wouldn't be changing the results we're currently seeing.
 
No I predicted we needed a RB because Smith is a bottom half championship Right back, he wouldn't be changing the results we're currently seeing.
I don’t think we would be 1 point in 6 games had Tommy Smith been fit and available for each game.
 
From the horses mouth in todays presser. Said the system suits the players. I fear he's doomed if hes not prepared to change a system which is clearly not working.
I hate it, but we do need to go 5 at the back as the 4 we have are not good enough. Maybe bring Jones in as a right back as the lad who played there on Saturday is never a right back. Alternatively, go with Smith who has experience and knows how to defend but protect him with Jones ahead if him. MxGree and Jones have to start either way.
 
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