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Well that is obvious, the issue is about the opposition though and how much fight they will have. Will they both be happy to put in the extra yards, the 50/50 tackles with their holibobs round the corner? I seriously doubt it. Will Fulham and Reading want to win more than Luton and Sheff Utd? I don’t think so, they have professionalism and no more. I hope that is enough but expect Luton, Sheffield and Boro all to win, I hope beyond hope I’m wrong and hope fear grips one of the others, but doubt it will.
Yes thats how I feel it will turn out but I still live in hope rather than expectancy. I won’t be too disappointed if we don’t make it. I’ve been through that stage with the losses to Hull, Huddersfield and Fulham. Am pleased we have taken it to the last game though and we can have a really good day out at Preston.
 
Yes thats how I feel it will turn out but I still live in hope rather than expectancy. I won’t be too disappointed if we don’t make it. I’ve been through that stage with the losses to Hull, Huddersfield and Fulham. Am pleased we have taken it to the last game though and we can have a really good day out at Preston.
Yes, looking forward to the game, of course their is hope, I can understand the younger fans believing beyond belief, but when you have been there time and again, you process things differently. With age comes realism. Of course their is a chance, the team must play as if their is every chance, but I will be in Preston to cheer my team to win the game with little expectation of anything else than 3 points, if it happens I’ll be delighted, if it doesn’t I won’t be as miserable as if it was in our own hands and missed out.
 
Yes, looking forward to the game, of course their is hope, I can understand the younger fans believing beyond belief, but when you have been there time and again, you process things differently. With age comes realism. Of course their is a chance, the team must play as if their is every chance, but I will be in Preston to cheer my team to win the game with little expectation of anything else than 3 points, if it happens I’ll be delighted, if it doesn’t I won’t be as miserable as if it was in our own hands and missed out.
No idea what age is got to do with it, the posters you are alluding to are late 20’s/ early 30’s not 12. The realism of the situation is now statistically and I also think logically we have a better chance of getting in the play offs now. We are still third favourites but we have more opportunity to nick a place as there is 2 teams we can catch. It’s not about wanting to being proved right it’s just the truth on this one.
 
Yes, looking forward to the game, of course their is hope, I can understand the younger fans believing beyond belief, but when you have been there time and again, you process things differently. With age comes realism. Of course their is a chance, the team must play as if their is every chance, but I will be in Preston to cheer my team to win the game with little expectation of anything else than 3 points, if it happens I’ll be delighted, if it doesn’t I won’t be as miserable as if it was in our own hands and missed out.
Actually, until recently our promotion challenges since 1973 have been successful, so younger fans probably have more reason to be pessimistic.
I don't think anyone is being unrealistic, we all realise that we are the 3rd favourites out of 4 to reach the play-offs. Whatever happened last night or tonight we are likely to miss out.
However the hard facts are that the odds turned slightly in our favour after last night's results.
And I'm talking about literal bookies odds and not hypothetical odds based on personal theories relating to the nature of man.
 
I've certainly seen teams with "nothing to play for" turn us over often enough to know that there's no guarantee Fulham or Reading will roll over. I'm also expecting Preston to turn up and make it a hard game.

Pressure does strange things to players (and pressure being off can have a positive effect too). Football is also an unpredictable game with a fair amount of luck involved. Players can miss chances, get sent off, dodgy pens etc......

We now have two teams we can realistically catch instead of one and definitely in the case of Luton a draw is no good to them either now, which wasn't the case before they played Fulham.

If we beat Preston, a Sheffield United loss, a Luton loss or a Luton draw sees us in the play-offs. If Fulham hadn't beaten Luton then we'd have been relying only on a Sheffield United defeat (bar us thumping Preston, seems very unlikely).

We now have 3 (technically 4 I suppose) chances to get "lucky" instead of one. I know which I prefer.
 
No idea what age is got to do with it, the posters you are alluding to are late 20’s/ early 30’s not 12. The realism of the situation is now statistically and I also think logically we have a better chance of getting in the play offs now. We are still third favourites but we have more opportunity to nick a place as there is 2 teams we can catch. It’s not about wanting to being proved right it’s just the truth on this one.
You are getting a bit snappy recently mate?

All I think Coluka meant is that us older generation wizzened Boro supporters have been let down so often in the past that we tend not to build our hopes up too high.
 
Forget stats and logic, they don't apply where Boro are concerned ;). Its thee old Boro mantra... "they'll always build you up, but in the end they'll always let you down". Goes back generations.

I don't think its an age thing, maybe an experience thing. Boro fans who've been through it time again over the decades are naturally cautious when it comes to hoping for this or that outcome.

Personally I think all three teams will win on Saturday, hence we'll be playing in the championship next season. Either way, its been a good season, lots of positives and I feel we're making progress, which is something we haven't done since Karanka's first two seasons in charge.
 
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You are getting a bit snappy recently mate?

All I think Coluka meant is that us older generation wizzened Boro supporters have been let down so often in the past that we tend not to build our hopes up too high.

Yep, pretty much this. (y)
 
You are getting a bit snappy recently mate?

All I think Coluka meant is that us older generation wizzened Boro supporters have been let down so often in the past that we tend not to build our hopes up too high.
Cos he mentioned my age in another thread too. No need, not sure how age has anything to do with my thinking. It’s factually correct to say we have more a chance now. I’m not snapping, just standing my ground and backing up my thought process with facts.
 
Forget stats and logic, they don't apply where Boro are concerned ;). Its thee old Boro mantra... "they'll always build you up, but in the end they'll always let you down". Goes back generations.

I don't think its an age thing, maybe an experience thing. Boro fans who've been through it time again over the decades are naturally cautious when it comes hoping for this or that outcome.

Personally I think all three teams will win on Saturday, hence we'll be playing in the championship next season. Either way, its been a good season, lots of positives and I feel we're making progress, which is something we haven't done since Karanka's first two seasons in charge.
I agree with that though, it’s happened plenty of times in the recent past. But what you must agree with too is, you would rather have the chance to grab a spot off 2 teams rather than 1 which is what Coluka is saying. That’s all me and a few other posters are pointing out, we are in a better position now to sneak in than we were before the game yesterday
 
I`m hoping Fulham will want to thank their away support with a comfortable win

I feel Reading will be just going through the motions but some may well be wanting to put themselves in the shop window/extend a contract

We just have to win, it`s all we can do and if we succeed then brilliant but if we don`t then it puts us in a good position for next season IMO

The trials and tribulations of a football fan, at the end of the day someone will be happy, someone will be sad
 
Cos he mentioned my age in another thread too. No need, not sure how age has anything to do with my thinking. It’s factually correct to say we have more a chance now. I’m not snapping, just standing my ground and backing up my thought process with facts.
We are all Boro supporters and have different ways of looking at things. I tend to agree you have rather "lashed out" a couple of times on recent threads and out of character. Maybe nerves?
 
We are all Boro supporters and have different ways of looking at things. I tend to agree you have rather "lashed out" a couple of times on recent threads and out of character. Maybe nerves?
Where have I lashed out? Haven’t once had a go at a poster individually for their opinion or got personal highlighting age as a factor as others have.
 
You are getting a bit snappy recently mate?

All I think Coluka meant is that us older generation wizzened Boro supporters have been let down so often in the past that we tend not to build our hopes up too high.

Yet as recently as Thursday, it was the opposite.

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I was told by Coluka that Cardiff wasn't necessarily a must win on Wednesday, and that he believed we'd all be celebrating at Preston.

Now Fulham beat a team we needed them to beat 7-0 and it's all over, he's expecting failure and is betting on the opposition.

It's a complete shift in position, not "realism" or being wizened.
 
Yet as recently as Thursday, it was the opposite.

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I was told by Coluka that Cardiff wasn't necessarily a must win on Wednesday, and that he believed we'd all be celebrating at Preston.

Now Fulham beat a team we needed them to beat 7-0 and it's all over, he's expecting failure and is betting on the opposition.

It's a complete shift in position, not "realism" or being wizened.
Excellent post.
 
Forget stats and logic, they don't apply where Boro are concerned ;). Its thee old Boro mantra... "they'll always build you up, but in the end they'll always let you down". Goes back generations.

I don't think its an age thing, maybe an experience thing. Boro fans who've been through it time again over the decades are naturally cautious when it comes hoping for this or that outcome.

Personally I think all three teams will win on Saturday, hence we'll be playing in the championship next season. Either way, its been a good season, lots of positives and I feel we're making progress, which is something we haven't done since Karanka's first two seasons in charge.

I think that's just part and parcel of being a football fan to be honest. Or at least of being a fan of a club like ours as opposed to a Man City. I bet all fans of similar clubs think the same.

The reality is we've probably had it better than most the last 20 years or so. If we feel like that (and we do) just think how Derby, Sheff Wed, Sunderland fans etc feel!

Imagine if you were a Luton fan right now. You were probably hoping you'd sealed that play-off spot before the final day. Or at least you'd be sure you'd only need a point. At the worst possible time they then go and get a morale destroying thrashing and suddenly they now also need to go and win on the last day to make sure. Typical Luton I'm sure they're thinking. Always have to do it the hard way, it'd be just like us to throw it away from here........

Obviously the most likely outcome is all 3 sides win and we miss out. But if anyone is that certain of it they can go and make a fair few quid at the bookies.

It's the championship anything can happen.
 
Where have I lashed out? Haven’t once had a go at a poster individually for their opinion or got personal highlighting age as a factor as others have.
You created a thread to have a dig at perceived negativity. Like others have not seen this negativity that was deemed worthy of its own thread. I enjoy your posts and your enthusiasm but not the passive aggressive tone you have adopted in some very recent posts.
 
You created a thread to have a dig at perceived negativity. Like others have not seen this negativity that was deemed worthy of its own thread. I enjoy your posts and your enthusiasm but not the passive aggressive tone you have adopted in some very recent posts.

There was absolutely loads of negativity about, plenty of posters saying it had all been over for weeks and it was rose tinted glasses to say otherwise.
 
You created a thread to have a dig at perceived negativity. Like others have not seen this negativity that was deemed worthy of its own thread. I enjoy your posts and your enthusiasm but not the passive aggressive tone you have adopted in some very recent posts.
There is no passive aggressive tone. I am not going to name individual names but there was plenty of posters on here telling me it was over and that I was being deluded etc before the Cardiff game and weren’t even accepting the fact that it wasn’t and we could still do it. Made me look a bit stupid on the board at the time, so that thread was just to remind people to not be so down and out until it’s over and to not be so personal when others have a different opinion.
 
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