McBrid
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I'd take Block21 and Pog over what we have now thanks
you have got yourself a job mate.
I'd take Block21 and Pog over what we have now thanks
Woody got the job because
A) He said he would play attacking football. That's the very clear mandate. High press attacking football. This comes from the fans. From the discontent with the Karanka and Pulis regimes, McLaren even. It's behind the appointment of monk and woody.
B) we have no money.
Let's say we ask Neil Warnock to come in. You've got to keep the team up. You've got to play attractive attacking football. You'll have no money to spend.
Not a chance.
I doubt woody was the only option. But to transform a bunch of cloggers into a high press attacking team, with no money, you're not going to get many high quality options willing to trash their reputations.
Now we've lost a few games point A no longer applies. People will accept us clawing our way out of trouble any which way. Maybes he's convinced that only relegation can end the calls for attacking football for more than half dozen matches.
Rather than pragmatist, romanticist, pragmatist, romanticist we can go pragmatist, pragmatist, pragmatist.
ah right because I’m not a multi millionaire I can’t have an opinion on the club. Your in the minority in your opinion so I don’t get why you have singled us 2 out. At the end of the day, he is making bad decisions. Paying fans who love the bones of the club are gonna be disappointed . It’s that simple. If your willing to lap it up then good for you.
Of course you can have an opinion, I never said you couldn't, in fact you have quite a few, putting them into practice is something totally different.
Of course fans are disappointed, angry and upset but it is a complex situation. It's not about lapping it up, but it's a very complex situation, if you really think Steve Gibson sits there thinking right, how he can mess things up, how can I get us relegated, turn the fans against me and waste my millions is laughable, yes he has made mistakes tell me someone who hasn't (except for you and Pog maybe) and he has certainly paid for them.
You might not, but I have total faith mistakes and all, that Steve Gibson only wants the best MFC and its fans and one way or another things will improve, you bail out now if you want to but I'm not for bailing.
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I don't really see how Woodgate is so much of a better financial appointment than others? He won't be working for free, will he be cheaper than someone like Pearson? Maybe, but we're not so skint we couldn't have afforded a manager with some experience. We interviewed Jokanovic remember, other managers wouldn't have been anywhere near as expensive.
You don't need money, as countless clubs have proved. You need a good management team and a scouting and recruitment structure who know what they're doing.
I am glad he has acknowledged some of the awful decisions he’s made in the last 10 - 12 years.
Of course you need money. There's the remote chance that you may find a genius who can get Mozart out of a tin whistle. But saying let's just appoint a manager who is really really good isn't really a plan.
Your best bet if you have no money is to go for a pragmatist. Good players cost money, hard working players cost less.
We haven't just lost a few games though, its a lot more serious than that.Woody got the job because
A) He said he would play attacking football. That's the very clear mandate. High press attacking football. This comes from the fans. From the discontent with the Karanka and Pulis regimes, McLaren even. It's behind the appointment of monk and woody.
B) we have no money.
Let's say we ask Neil Warnock to come in. You've got to keep the team up. You've got to play attractive attacking football. You'll have no money to spend.
Not a chance.
I doubt woody was the only option. But to transform a bunch of cloggers into a high press attacking team, with no money, you're not going to get many high quality options willing to trash their reputations.
Now we've lost a few games point A no longer applies. People will accept us clawing our way out of trouble any which way. Maybes he's convinced that only relegation can end the calls for attacking football for more than half dozen matches.
Rather than pragmatist, romanticist, pragmatist, romanticist we can go pragmatist, pragmatist, pragmatist.
The no money argument doesn’t hold up.
Would he have been that much cheaper than Pearson who was willing to go to League One? Why even bother interviewing Jokanovic? His wage demands were public.
We have money to pay the likes of Nmecha’s wages and he’s terrible.
As always with Gibson, it’s about control.
Those managers would want their own backroom teams, and he wouldn’t have as much control as he does other Woodgate.
I would hope Man city pay us the cost of relegation and the money to get back up for us taking Nmecha.
Let’s say it was financial.
Let’s say for argument sake Pearson wanted £10,000 a week more than Woodgate.
£500,000 a year.
Once we shift the big earners in the summer over £10m is going to be released from the wage budget.
Are we saying we couldn’t afford to spend £500k of that on a capable manager?
If we can’t afford that how have we afforded to pay the wages of Nmecha, Makoudi and Roberts?
The money excuse makes Gibson look even more incompetent.
He appointed him because he wanted a patsy, because they’re cheap, will do as they’re are told and will work with the inner circle of yes men that Gibson surrounds himself with.
He claimed Woodgate was “the outstanding candidate in a robust process which attracted huge interest”.
He’s lying.
We could have had Nigel Pearson, who was willing to step down to League One and manage Sunderland. He was available and affordable.
Woodgate was simply not “the outstanding candidate”, he was by some distance the worst and least qualified.