Stop with the Carrick out threads

Easterside_Red said:
Gibson won't sack Carrick while he's taking the bulk of the criticism. Only when Gibson starts to feel the heat will he pull the trigger.
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That doesn’t make any sense at all, he won’t sack Carrick because he will turn our current form around not because he’s getting a bit of stick online.
 
InglebyUTB said:
So you think bottom of the league with no wins since April is good enough?

No you tell me what the parameters are and I will answer your question, until you do it’s like asking me how long is a piece of string.
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I dont see anything to suggest "(I)...think bottom of the league with no wins since April is good enough". *


* Actually I`m delighted. (y)
 
"play players in their actual positions"

This is such an old fashioned comment. Players don't have set positions. They have attributes which a manager tries to get the best out of. No-one complained last season when we played Forss and Akpom out of their 'actual positions'.
 
Why are we talking about our Head Coach and his position when virtually nobody wants him removed, or have I missed a thread containing a mass of posts calling him out. I see loads of posters supporting him, and so we should, he is not the root cause.

Those thinking he is fully bought in because he says he is happy with everything in front of the media, what do you expect a media savvy, media trained, well respected former England international and former Man Utd captain to say? He is a paid employee of the club, he has standards he has to keep and uphold. He is a part of the recruitment process, but not the recruitment team. I suspect he won’t have known very much if anything about any of these lads that have come in personally, bar maybe Dieng and O’Brien. He will be very reliant on the detailed analysis held by Scott and his assembled army of elves. I assume as Head of Football at the club, Carrick presumably reports to Scott. (If that is not the case, then it begs the questionable title of Mr Scott).

A Head Coach is not the same as a Manager in the sense some people seem to think it is. Carrick does not have all the responsibilities afforded to some of our past incumbents like Uncle Tony for example. He relies heavily on the data held on players strengths weaknesses etc being pretty accurate. He won’t know the level of quality of some of these kids beforehand. They are recruited and handed over for him to mould into a team. However, as of yet, the quality seems a lot lower than the standard needed to hit the ground. It’s like a potter trying to make a bowl out of mud at present. I feel for him. Another poster has suggested two players have been mis-scouted, I hope that is wrong, as if true, then it should be obvious where the buck stops, Carrick should not be held responsible for the problem caused by areas of the club he is not accountable for. Recruitment is not his role directly that is Scotts responsibility.

Carrick has my full support as I don’t want to see him go the way of others, I would keep him even if god forbid we were relegated. Obviously we can’t stop him walking, but I believe he is a fighter and a really warm decent man that we are lucky to have. It is others where my eyes are at at present as recruitment so far is looking iffy, lets hope things click for 2 or 3 of them at least.
 
Quicksilvera said:
That doesn’t make any sense at all, he won’t sack Carrick because he will turn our current form around not because he’s getting a bit of stick online.
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Could you please pass on to Stephen Gibson [OBE], that some people on a local Football Forum have all the answers to any issues he may be facing and will have the club in the Champions League by Bonfire Night.
He will be pleased.
I`m sure.

ps.
There is a 10/- note in the post to pay for some more red seats in the West Stand ;)
 
BoroPhil said:
"play players in their actual positions"

This is such an old fashioned comment. Players don't have set positions. They have attributes which a manager tries to get the best out of. No-one complained last season when we played Forss and Akpom out of their 'actual positions'.
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I’m pretty sure Lewis O’Brien does not play on the left hand side of an attacking three.

Especially when he has at least 2 other players who can play that role.

We’re playing Crooks who is a central midfielder as a No10, when we have someone who plays that role sat on the bench and didn’t get a single minute.
 
Not that I want Carrick to go, but Gibson seems to pull the trigger when you least expect it, and has been doing it more and more over the last few years.
 
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we all want him to succeed but if we get beat tomorrow night i can't see him lasting until the weekend
 
uncle_rico said:
So we signed O'Brien to play left wing?
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Well for starters he didn't play LW, it was the inverted L/C AM McGree was playing last season.
If the criticism is playing O'Brien there fair enough - I'd have played McGree as well but Carrick said he wasn't fit to start after travelling.
If it's a general 'players should play in their correct positions' (as stated) then I think it's a load of rubbish as last season proved.
 
We have lost over 40 goals from last season and so far the replacements up top do not look to that standard or that they are getting the rub of the green.

Our defence was not great last season, we conceded most games we just happened to go on a run of scoring 2 - 3 per game which papered over the cracks. The defence this year for me is not stronger than last year so its not surprising we are at the wrong of the table as we are not scoring enough and still conceding every game.

It's 12 games in the league without a win if you include to play offs.

I still have faith in Carrick but this is an awful league when things are bad.

Last season had the new manager bounce, we played a blinder in the loan market and confidence was high. We are currently a long way from that. Sheff Wed is a massive game, they are in all sorts of trouble themselves, if we cannot beat them and god forbid lose to them then it will be pretty damming.

We need a bit of luck and to try and find a settled XI, its worrying that after the international break we still don't have a settled XI
 
BoroPhil said:
Well for starters he didn't play LW, it was the inverted L/C AM McGree was playing last season.
If the criticism is playing O'Brien there fair enough - I'd have played McGree as well but Carrick said he wasn't fit to start after travelling.
If it's a general 'players should play in their correct positions' (as stated) then I think it's a load of rubbish as last season proved.
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Pedantics. Its basically left wing and its not his natural position. Would've made more sense to play hackney there and play O'Brien at CM where he has played and done well in this league. We had Jones, Greenwood and Rogers who can all play there too, so was a very strange selection.
 
BoroPhil said:
Well for starters he didn't play LW, it was the inverted L/C AM McGree was playing last season.
If the criticism is playing O'Brien there fair enough - I'd have played McGree as well but Carrick said he wasn't fit to start after travelling.
If it's a general 'players should play in their correct positions' (as stated) then I think it's a load of rubbish as last season proved.
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I never said he did play left wing.

He could have played Jones there as in inverted winger like he had previously.

He could have played Rogers there.

He could have played Latte Lath there, as he sure as hell isn't a striker.

Or alternatively instead of trying to shoehorn players into his one and only system, change it to a 4-3-3 and perhaps we won't get overran in the middle of the pitch.
 
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