Well There We Have It, The Easy 'Oven Ready Deal' that Never Was...

Did anyone catch the car crash interview this morning on lbc, nick ferrari interviewing the business minister, couldn't explain what a Australian style deal was that he said we should go for, eventually saying its the same as no deal.
Asked about the situation with football clubs going to the wall, couldn't even name which division his constituency team play in or how they were doing
His "advisor " had to step in.
Now if that had been dianne Abbott......
Around 31 mins in
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/special-shows/call-cabinet/call-the-cabinet-with-alok-sharma-monday-9am/
 
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Several years down the line, hundreds of conversations, thousands of read messages on boards like this and still I have yet to see a real positive reason for us to leave the EU from any of those who voted in favour of Brexit.

Anyone care to enlighten me?


You are joking right???!!
I hear perfectly reasonable, sound, sensible valid reasons based on fact, all the time where I work.....

My most learned colleague today told me the following - ‘you know we have law already in place to bring back the death penalty right? But the EU have a friggin law that stops us. Another reason for leaving the EU to rot!’

It would be funny if it was made up. But it isn’t, that was an actual conversation I had today.
 
Did anyone catch the car crash interview this morning on lbc, nick ferrari interviewing the business minister, couldn't explain what a Australian style deal was that he said we should go for, eventually saying its the same as no deal.
Asked about the situation with football clubs going to the wall, couldn't even name which division his constituency team play in or how they were doing
His "advisor " had to step in.
Now if that had been dianne Abbott......
Around 31 mins in
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/special-shows/call-cabinet/call-the-cabinet-with-alok-sharma-monday-9am/

holy moly, that is embarrassing. massively so
 
Very clear - it's all semantics. Unbelievable.

he might have well just have said, "yeah, we're just bu11shitting you. we cant bring ourselves to admit this is no deal by any other name so we'll invent a new style of agreement and call it that. they could just as accurately call it a Button Moon style deal
 
That was never on the table anyway. Very clear right from the start.

Exactly. There is no 'off the shelf' Canada deal to do. Never has been. You cannot just scrub out Canada and replace it with UK even though our crazy red lines pushed us into a position where the Canada model was the only real option left. Our proximity to the EU compared to that of Canada means there has to be fundamental differences, particularly around state aid and LPF, which we agreed to in the political declaration.
 
"Amusing" to note that we are not leaving on WTO terms, we are getting an "Australia +" deal (which just happens to be identical to WTO)

They really DO think we're stupid.
It's really an Australia minus deal. They have a trade framework agreement and other arrangements in place with the EU.
 
It's really an Australia minus deal. They have a trade framework agreement and other arrangements in place with the EU.
Yep, the EU & Australia are party to several bi-lateral agreements.

Directly there are ones like the agreement on industrial products which creates mutual recognition of conformity assessment procedures the cost of testing and certifying of exports and imports.

Australia is part of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) and the EU & APEC have agreed data sharing regulations so that companies operating in both the EU & APEC have a single set of regulations to adhere to & can use data generated by the company in both jurisdictions.

Small beans but more than the UK has.
 
Brexit is the biggest con ever pulled off on the British public. Johnson saw it as opportunity to get into number 10 and he took it - remember he was a remainer to start with. What followed was a calculated campaign of lies and misinformation that swayed enough (just enough) to vote leave. No one in the leave campaign ever ever once mentioned that we might leave with no deal and be worse off than we are now - quite the opposite in fact, it was going to be oh so easy, the easiest deal in history in fact. Now the no deal Brexit staring us in the face has suddenly morphed into “the Australia type deal” 🤔 Australia don’t have a deal with the EU 🤪 so this turd being dressed up as some kind of antipodean utopia is in fact NO FECKING DEAL 😡And why say Australia deal anyway - why not the Uzbekistan deal or the Guatemala deal because they haven’t got a fecking deal with EU either - it’s all utter utter lies, bollox and a smokescreen for the complete pandemonium and chaos that’s ahead. The UK voted for a clown and now we have a circus but no one here is going to be laughing when the shít hits the fan next year 💩



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Brexit is the biggest con ever pulled off on the British public. Johnson saw it as opportunity to get into number 10 and he took it - remember he was a remainer to start with. What followed was a calculated campaign of lies and misinformation that swayed enough (just enough) to vote leave. No one in the leave campaign ever ever once mentioned that we might leave with no deal and be worse off than we are now - quite the opposite in fact, it was going to be oh so easy, the easiest deal in history in fact. Now the no deal Brexit staring us in the face has suddenly morphed into “the Australia type deal” 🤔 Australia don’t have a deal with the EU 🤪 so this turd being dressed up as some kind of antipodean utopia is in fact NO FECKING DEAL 😡And why say Australia deal anyway - why not the Uzbekistan deal or the Guatemala deal because they haven’t got a fecking deal with EU either - it’s all utter utter lies, bollox and a smokescreen for the complete pandemonium and chaos that’s ahead. The UK voted for a clown and now we have a circus but no one here is going to be laughing when the shít hits the fan next year 💩



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No deal was actually explicitly excluded by the Leave campaign. There is absolutely no mandate for any of this.
 
Even a deal will lead to a 6% GDP hit (government figures); don't recall that being part of the leave campaign.

Exactly. In many ways all of this no deal talk has done exactly what I’m sure it was designed to. Nobody is talking about the elephant in the room that even a deal is still going to be ****. Just a little bit less **** than no deal.
 
Brexit is the biggest con ever pulled off on the British public. Johnson saw it as opportunity to get into number 10 and he took it - remember he was a remainer to start with. What followed was a calculated campaign of lies and misinformation that swayed enough (just enough) to vote leave. No one in the leave campaign ever ever once mentioned that we might leave with no deal and be worse off than we are now - quite the opposite in fact, it was going to be oh so easy, the easiest deal in history in fact. Now the no deal Brexit staring us in the face has suddenly morphed into “the Australia type deal” 🤔 Australia don’t have a deal with the EU 🤪 so this turd being dressed up as some kind of antipodean utopia is in fact NO FECKING DEAL 😡And why say Australia deal anyway - why not the Uzbekistan deal or the Guatemala deal because they haven’t got a fecking deal with EU either - it’s all utter utter lies, bollox and a smokescreen for the complete pandemonium and chaos that’s ahead. The UK voted for a clown and now we have a circus but no one here is going to be laughing when the shít hits the fan next year 💩



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Possibly one of the best posts I've ever read :D
 
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