Tories close gap on Labour to 1 point

Lefty said:
It was about the abject failure to deal with it. It was about the signal it sent out.
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The signal it sent out was that anything centre left is antisemitism. Very dangerous.. especially when those actions enable a right wing government dabbling in fascist ideology.
Lefty said:
Starmer has sent a different, necessary signal out.
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Starmer has failed to distance himself from the government, the message is clear. Kier Starmer apposes Labour Party members and policies and does not appose an entirely corrupt far right Conservative party.
 
SmallTown said:
Ah labour infighting. The Tory enabler!
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Keir Starmer is the Tory enabler!

It’s got nothing to do with social media chitter chatter. Right wing MPs are the problem.

They’ve even been rewarded by the Conservative Party for their services!!
 
Midnight to Six Man said:
If only the PLP had voted David Miliband as leader instead of Ed .
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It cracks me up to still see people saying this. It was claimed there was a personality cult with Corbyn, and yet here we are 12 years on and people are still talking about a bloke who never even made leader. Never has anything to do with any policies David Miliband might have had. Just an imaginary version of him in peoples minds based on what he looks like.
 
norfolkngood said:
So you won't complain when the Tories get another 5 years then?


its pretty simple how they get away with it. Lunatic left wingers who want to stick to their socialist principles and refuse to vote for a party that can defeat the Tories vote Green or abstain. Therefore the Tory wins again and we are stuck with another 5 years of Tory government. But you don't need to worry. You and all the rest of the idiots stuck with your principles. The country is fcuked but you can look at yourself in the mirror each day.
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The vast majority of "left wingers " i know held their nose and voted labour, they certainly didn't go out and vote tory.
That was the brexit obsessed, mainly in the North that are starting to realise that right wing polices are closer to their political thinking than they thought.
See hartlepool for example
 
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SuperStu said:
Okay sure. And the same applies to Starmer threatening to throw Labour MPs out the party? Or is that not infighting?
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It's a fact. whether you like it or not. Infighting benefits the Tories. If you want to infight about infighting, that's your prerogative but you need to do so knowing that ultimately the only people benefitting are the Tories.
 
jam69 said:
The vast majority of "left wingers " i know held their nose and voted labour, they certainly didn't go out and vote tory.
That was the brexit obsessed, mainly in the North that are starting to realise that right wing polices are closer to their political thinking than they thought.
See hartlepool for example
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that's bang on Jam unfortunately nationalist policies seem to be a winner for the tories think it is only going to get worse
 
SmallTown said:
It's a fact. whether you like it or not. Infighting benefits the Tories. If you want to infight about infighting, that's your prerogative but you need to do so knowing that ultimately the only people benefitting are the Tories.
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Is that a yes? Yes you agree Starmer's a tory enabler?
 
SuperStu said:
Is that a yes? Yes you agree Starmer's a tory enabler?
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No. it;s a solid no. I would say that people infighting is enabling the Tories. As it always does through history. We are at a critical moment where we simply must do everything we can to remover the current government. Whining about the man who leads the only party capable of doing this will help the Tories.

If that's what you want, more Tory power, then crack on. It's flat bizarre to me that you would complain about someone, and yourself enable the Tories. then blame him because you're reacting like that. really weird.
 
SmallTown said:
No. it;s a solid no. I would say that people infighting is enabling the Tories. As it always does through history. We are at a critical moment where we simply must do everything we can to remover the current government. Whining about the man who leads the only party capable of doing this will help the Tories.

If that's what you want, more Tory power, then crack on. It's flat bizarre to me that you would complain about someone, and yourself enable the Tories. then blame him because you're reacting like that. really weird.
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The infighting continues and yet they can't see it's all for the gain of the Tories. I find it baffling that these people would rather see Boris Johnson prevail rather than Kier Starmer and are actively, with their actions, campaigning for it.
 
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