BumTrumpet57
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I’m interested in your conclusion.Ask Michael Carrick - those are his thoughts and words from Thursday`s Media Conference.
Its up to individual fans to draw their own conclusions.
I’m interested in your conclusion.Ask Michael Carrick - those are his thoughts and words from Thursday`s Media Conference.
Its up to individual fans to draw their own conclusions.
Im not interested in other teams, only ours. Each team / circumstance is different. I`l leave it at that.I’m interested in your conclusion.
How on earth do you make that out?but I still think we're headed in the right direction
How on earth do you make that out?
I wouldn’t say clearly there is no coaching about when to press as a team, it’s more, the team haven’t had many training sessions togetherView attachment 62670
This is the start of the buildup to West Brom's second goal.
Latte Lath was blocking pass into the * player to begin with and then decides to press the centre back. This creates a simple pass into * player who can turn and drive with the ball and put howson (next to the ref) in no mans land as he has to come and meet him leave Swift (behind howson) open and in space to carry the ball.
What Latte Lath needs to do is continue to block that pass and force the ball across to the number 6 and then as move across as a team to force the ball into the right wing area.
I'm not blaming Latte Lath for the goal but clearly there is no coaching about how to press as a team and how to have a shape defensively that keeps other teams out of danger areas especially the middle of the pitch.
I wouldn’t say clearly there is no coaching about when to press as a team, it’s more, the team haven’t had many training sessions together
Because we've just lost our main creative outlet and our top two goalscorers. Steffan, Giles, Akpom and Archer were vital to the way our side played last season. And we weren't certain that two of those players wouldn't be here (Akpom and Giles) until after the season started. So we couldn't replace them until that was confirmed. Which means that the side has to gel after the season is underway.Birmingham signed 9 players this summer they've got them firing why can't ours when we've spent more on them
I've just watched that back and I don't think you've described that correctly.View attachment 62670
This is the start of the buildup to West Brom's second goal.
Latte Lath was blocking pass into the * player to begin with and then decides to press the centre back. This creates a simple pass into * player who can turn and drive with the ball and put howson (next to the ref) in no mans land as he has to come and meet him leave Swift (behind howson) open and in space to carry the ball.
What Latte Lath needs to do is continue to block that pass and force the ball across to the number 6 and then as move across as a team to force the ball into the right wing area.
I'm not blaming Latte Lath for the goal but clearly there is no coaching about how to press as a team and how to have a shape defensively that keeps other teams out of danger areas especially the middle of the pitch.
Agree Rogers a 4 for me did nothing meaningfulAgree with all of that except Rogers….very underwhelmed so far. Hope he proves me wrong!
Akpom was always going to be soldBecause we've just lost our main creative outlet and our top two goalscorers. Steffan, Giles, Akpom and Archer were vital to the way our side played last season. And we weren't certain that two of those players wouldn't be here (Akpom and Giles) until after the season started. So we couldn't replace them until that was confirmed. Which means that the side has to gel after the season is underway.
Every side is different. Every challenge is different.
I think part of the issue is that we're a big club at this level. It's whether Boro fans are prepared to be patient and accept that it's a long-term plan.For me, it's not whether we keep faith in Carrick but whether he, Danks, Scott and Woodgate can all remain in place to take us through the next few years to see the benefits of what they're trying to do. I don't think Silvera, Rogers, Gilbert and Van den Berg will all be enough to get us to the playoffs right now, but maybe they can be brilliant players in a year or two. It feels like they're laying foundations, but we all crave success now. Last year was a hodgepodge team that was well coached, but now we are working on low budget and have lost the loan players who propelled us beyond mid-table. I just hope the non-playing staff have the staying power when bigger clubs will probably be interested in them. Football is all about hope and belief and we need a bit of that now. It's easy for fans to stay on board with a project when it's immediately successful like it was after October last year; it's harder when the wins aren't coming, but I still think we're headed in the right direction
It’s not quite as simple as that, this isn’t championship mangerBirmingham signed 9 players this summer they've got them firing why can't ours when we've spent more on them
I tend to agree with this analysis - Silvera switched off for a while and when he realised it was too late and he could not catch Swift if Swift drove forward. I noticed in the Brighton/WHU game - WHU would very quickly have 7 or 8 outfield players defending when Brighton were attacking i.e all the defence and midfield - When WHU were attacking they quickly got 5 players forward. In the above photo we have at least three players wrong side of the ball, that's too many. Maybe that's what Vincent Company meant when he said Boro were poor when not in possession.I've just watched that back and I don't think you've described that correctly.
1) Lath presses the defender (probably should have bent his run slightly to block the pass if nitpicking)
2) the defender makes the pass
3) Howson stays where he is and Rogers comes back to challenge the midfielder. Howson isn't drawn out of position at all. But he isn't really paying attention to what's behind him.
It's hard to say without seeing the whole pitch. But this photo is when the ball is played to Swift.
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I'd say there's a lack of communication here. And there's definitely a positional issue with Silvera, he should already be getting back to support the full back here. But he doesn't really run back until after Swift starts to run towards goal. When the ball reaches Swift, Smith is the best placed to close him down, but he can't because then there's an easy ball out to the winger. Someone should be screaming at Silvera to get back at this point. Because it's that space out wide that causes the problem here, it leaves Smith with no option but to hold his position which means that Swift knows he can slip the ball in to the winger if he's closed down or shoot if he isn't.
Gibson takes us all for foolsIt always makes me laugh when posters make excuses for our performances as if none of the other 23 teams in the division experience similar issues.
We are where we are because that's where we deserve to be.
We've got an exciting manager who himself was a class player and instead of backing him Gibson has decided to go shopping in the bargain basement.
21,000 season ticket holders mugged off once again.
I've just watched that back and I don't think you've described that correctly.
1) Lath presses the defender (probably should have bent his run slightly to block the pass if nitpicking)
2) the defender makes the pass
3) Howson stays where he is and Rogers comes back to challenge the midfielder. Howson isn't drawn out of position at all. But he isn't really paying attention to what's behind him.
It's hard to say without seeing the whole pitch. But this photo is when the ball is played to Swift.
I'd say there's a lack of communication here. And there's definitely a positional issue with Silvera, he should already be getting back to support the full back here. But he doesn't really run back until after Swift starts to run towards goal. When the ball reaches Swift, Smith is the best placed to close him down, but he can't because then there's an easy ball out to the winger. Someone should be screaming at Silvera to get back at this point. Because it's that space out wide that causes the problem here, it leaves Smith with no option but to hold his position which means that Swift knows he can slip the ball in to the winger if he's closed down or shoot if he isn't.