The Jubilee

Can you please explain to me and the rest of the board, which part of being British are you proud of?
I can't answer for ST, but this "anti-british" stuff is nonsense. I don't see wearing a sparkly hat and living in a castle as the epitome of being british and the british people. In fact, I don't know anyone that lives like that personally.

I'm proud of our musicality, our sense of honesty, our poets and painters, our scientists and engineers, our sportsmen and actors and writers. I'm not proud of Liz the sex offender protector, or Charles with his abuse of position to influence politics, or 'gaff'/racist Philip, or Andrew...say no more. I'm proud of John Lennon, David Bowie, Thom Yorke, PJ Harvey, Lennox Lewis, Daley Thompson, Mo Farah, Bobby Moore, Stephen Hawking, Isaac Newton, Ada Lovelace, David Attenborough, John Logie Baird, Robert Louis Stephenson, LS Lowry, John Constable, TS Elliot, William Shakespeare, JRR Tolkien, Peter Sellars, Michael Palin, Olivia Coleman, Ian McKellan......these are people that make me proud to be british, people that dedicated themselves to their careers, that brought art or invention to the world. People that dedicated themselves, to betterment, people that got where they did through facing a challenge and over coming it, rather than just having it handed to them.
 
I love this specious argument! Does that mean you can only take either jubilee day off or workers bank holiday in May?
they expect us to work for free, it's a nonsense argument. If I could work the day and be paid, or have another free paid day at a different time, then I would. But that really isn't a choice for us. Royalists want us to work and effectively subsidise their celebrations, I refuse to do that.
 
I can't answer for ST, but this "anti-british" stuff is nonsense. I don't see wearing a sparkly hat and living in a castle as the epitome of being british and the british people. In fact, I don't know anyone that lives like that personally.

I'm proud of our musicality, our sense of honesty, our poets and painters, our scientists and engineers, our sportsmen and actors and writers. I'm not proud of Liz the sex offender protector, or Charles with his abuse of position to influence politics, or 'gaff'/racist Philip, or Andrew...say no more. I'm proud of John Lennon, David Bowie, Thom Yorke, PJ Harvey, Lennox Lewis, Daley Thompson, Mo Farah, Bobby Moore, Stephen Hawking, Isaac Newton, Ada Lovelace, David Attenborough, John Logie Baird, Robert Louis Stephenson, LS Lowry, John Constable, TS Elliot, William Shakespeare, JRR Tolkien, Peter Sellars, Michael Palin, Olivia Coleman, Ian McKellan......these are people that make me proud to be british, people that dedicated themselves to their careers, that brought art or invention to the world. People that dedicated themselves, to betterment, people that got where they did through facing a challenge and over coming it, rather than just having it handed to them.
I also don't see wearing a sparkly hat or waving a flag s being British, many other nations also do that.

The reason I asked ST is I have never heard him say a good word about the country.
 
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Why? Look all around social media. It's almost against the law to be a straight, white, middle aged man these days. I keep myself to myself, look after my family, look out for my friends and work hard every day for a sense of belonging, achievement and god forbid I actually enjoy work. But no, I'm reminded daily I should apologize for slavery 100's of years ago, I shouldn't talk to women for fear of been accused of been a sex pest, if I don't vote labour I'm a Tory (figure the one out 🤔), I'm killing the planet because I like a steak or a hot shower and I drive a petrol car instead of taking a bus.
It's social media, people of all shades of politics, sexuality and culture are outspoken about all sorts, but most of it is anger given a legitimate channel to air itself. Most males of 50+ still do what they want me included , if I come in for stick for what I do then I check in with myself to see I feel there is a point or the criticism is valid or to see if there is something I can learn, if not then I give stick back. I had a situation at work when another colleague asked me not to relate to other people in a gender specific way, fair enough, that's what they wanted, I had no issue with it and would do it for that person but they asked me not to do it for my mam, sorry but that's too intrusive into my experience and relationships, it's a two way thing this acceptance.
 
I take it the republicans will be at work on Friday instead of taking the Bank Holiday? 😉😉
Bank holidays make no difference to me. I work when I want/need to, regardless of 'normal' working patterns. So I probably will do a bit, and knock off whenever I'm done, like any other day.
 
Why? Look all around social media. It's almost against the law to be a straight, white, middle aged man these days. I keep myself to myself, look after my family, look out for my friends and work hard every day for a sense of belonging, achievement and god forbid I actually enjoy work. But no, I'm reminded daily I should apologize for slavery 100's of years ago, I shouldn't talk to women for fear of been accused of been a sex pest, if I don't vote labour I'm a Tory (figure the one out 🤔), I'm killing the planet because I like a steak or a hot shower and I drive a petrol car instead of taking a bus.
I think you've covered all the narratives that people like to push in the "you can't even do that anymore" categories.
I'm also white and middle age and don't share any of those beliefs and don't think I'm not allowed to be anything.
People don't like men who are white and racist.
Or white and abusing positions of privilege etc.
Or are patriotic but a far right racist
But I don't imagine you're doing any of those sorts of thing
 
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So you've got nothing to contribute to the thread except insulting another poster? Classy. You stay classy
It is a contribution to the board in general, pointing out what a condescending **** you are and that a change in how you post would be of benefit.

Thats not an insult. It’s a fact.
 
It is a contribution to the board in general, pointing out what a condescending **** you are and that a change in how you post would be of benefit.

Thats not an insult. It’s a fact.
Still mention of the jubilee. Shame you're more interested in petty insults and points scoring than an actual conversation. Shame you have to degrade the conversation.
 
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