The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

Alvez_48 said:
So we're at the point now where the Pandemic by any measure is essentially over.. The pattern through these 'spikes' shows repeatedly a hot spot hits around 20% infection and then disappears.

It will be interesting to see how long the acts, rules and regulations etc will be with us, what's everyone's best guess?

Will we collectively **** ourselves again come flu season?
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The measures will be around for a while yet as the pandemic is not over, despite your willingness to believe it so.
 
That’s a good chart newusername, really shows how hard we were hit in the early days and how far we’ve come
 
Alvez_48 said:
So we're at the point now where the Pandemic by any measure is essentially over.. The pattern through these 'spikes' shows repeatedly a hot spot hits around 20% infection and then disappears.

It will be interesting to see how long the acts, rules and regulations etc will be with us, what's everyone's best guess?

Will we collectively **** ourselves again come flu season?
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~20% infection as judged by antibodies, likely higher due to other forms of immunity / mechanisms the body deals with the virus. More and more studies coming out with in vivo evidence now. As much as I disagreed with Alvez in the early stages of this and also think the government made a complete hash of things on pretty much every level it could, we are not seeing an increase in cases / hospitalisations/ ICU admissions / deaths despite more opening up of society. I said a while ago things should be opened up where possible and it is just too slow at the moment.

How long will the rules and regulations be with us? The more restrictive ones will probably be in place for far too long sadly. The government is just far too slow to look at the evidence and act on it. It was far too slow in February and it is being far too slow now.

I work in a scientific environment and can't believe how many people I work with seem to be more concerned now than they were in February!
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 812 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 1,089
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 2.6% to 1,043 per day, following 0.8% decrease yesterday (and 4th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new cases is 10.4% higher than one week ago (from 15.4% higher yesterday) and 27.2% higher than two weeks ago (from 33.6% higher yesterday and 30.2% higher 7 days ago)
• 16 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, up from 12 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 5.6% to 10 per day, following 1.4% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 23.6% lower than one week ago (from 13.3% lower yesterday) and 4.2% lower than two weeks ago (from 20.9% lower yesterday and 27.0% lower 7 days ago)
 
Alvez_48 said:
So we're at the point now where the Pandemic by any measure is essentially over. The pattern through these 'spikes' shows repeatedly a hot spot hits around 20% infection and then disappears. It will be interesting to see how long the acts, rules and regulations etc will be with us, what's everyone's best guess? Will we collectively **** ourselves again come flu season?
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Alvez_48 said:
What would your measure of the Pandemic being over be?
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Alvez_48 said:
I was referring to the UK not the world.
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The graph was to show that the pandemic is far from over and deaths are approaching the peak experienced in April.

Currently only 750m people out of 8bn can travel to the UK without quarantine & that number seems to be reducing rather than rising.

While there is community transmission at home and abroad (pre-vaccine, pre-herd immunity) there will be restrictions in place.
 
newusername said:
The graph was to show that the pandemic is far from over and deaths are approaching the peak experienced in April.

Currently only 750m people out of 8bn can travel to the UK without quarantine & that number seems to be reducing rather than rising.

While there is community transmission at home and abroad (pre-vaccine, pre-herd immunity) there will be restrictions in place.
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So in your opinion whilst the rest of the world experiences it's outbreak, Draconian measures should not be halted in countries (like ours) that have had theirs. So essentially a long time, cool.

Could have just said that. 👍🏻
 
Laughing said:
Alvez, you do your argument no favours with terms like draconian.
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Standard Alvez I'm afraid. Don't blame him, it's a common tactic of the Papers and the government. Use emotive and charged language to get your point across. Sadly it works better on the human psyche than facts.
 
Hey Bear, or anyone else actually know why we are seeing increases in cases, but not in hospital admissions? I am hoping there is some evidence somewhere for herd immunity, please don't let it be the nice weather.
 
Laughing said:
Hey Bear, or anyone else actually know why we are seeing increases in cases, but not in hospital admissions? I am hoping there is some evidence somewhere for herd immunity, please don't let it be the nice weather.
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Admissions leveled off / increased slightly from 1 August where there was a low of 50 admissions in England. They're about 50 to 60 a day with a few above 70.
 
That is interesting Bear, I see that positive tests are increasing, and increasing at a slightly higher rate than the number of tests, at least for the last couple of weeks. But hospital admissions have leveled off'ish with a possible change to increasing in the wind.

I hope we don't see a recurrence in the winter, we, the UK, Europe and beyond really doesn't want to go back through a rising death toll.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 1,182 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 812
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 0.7% to 1,050 per day, following 2.6% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 8.2% higher than one week ago (from 10.4% higher yesterday) and 25.8% higher than two weeks ago (from 27.2% higher yesterday and 31.8% higher 7 days ago)
• 6 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 16 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 17.6% to 8 per day, following 5.6% decrease yesterday (and 4th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 37.1% lower than one week ago (from 23.6% lower yesterday) and 37.1% lower than two weeks ago (from 4.2% lower yesterday and 21.2% lower 7 days ago)
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 1,033 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 1,182
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 5.5% to 992 per day, following 0.7% increase yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 5.7% lower than one week ago (from 8.2% higher yesterday) and 19.0% higher than two weeks ago (from 25.8% higher yesterday and 39.8% higher 7 days ago)
• 2 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 6 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 16.1% to 8 per day, following 17.6% decrease yesterday (and 5th consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 46.6% lower than one week ago (from 37.1% lower yesterday) and 42.0% lower than two weeks ago (from 37.1% lower yesterday and 12.9% lower 7 days ago)
 
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