The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

Today's headline analysis:

• 1,089 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 713
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 0.8% to 1,071 per day, following 1.3% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 15.4% higher than one week ago (from 25.6% higher yesterday) and 33.6% higher than two weeks ago (from 36.8% higher yesterday and 33.3% higher 7 days ago)
• 12 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, up from 3 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 1.4% to 10 per day, following 17.0% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 13.3% lower than one week ago (from 17.0% lower yesterday) and 20.9% lower than two weeks ago (from 22.3% lower yesterday and 21.0% lower 7 days ago)
 
Billy Horner said:
Unfortunately "...This is a count of test results and may include multiple tests for an individual person."
Hence, we know the number of tests performed each day but still have no idea how many people were tested. This is why we must treat assurances that the positive test rate hasn't been rising ... with extreme caution
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At some level that is a known unknown and it could only be hiding a rising test rate by there being a reducing number of double counted tests in the cohort.

Since the end of June positives have been less than 1% of the number of tests performed but over a month and a half they have risen from a low of 352 (0.28% of tests) to 1089 (0.73%). Not great but not bad.
 
W/e 7th August. People dying in private homes 700 deaths above the 5 year average. This is where to conversation now has to go. There’s a bigger killer now
 
SmallTown said:
Of course I do, why i had to explain why it was "like" giving us sanctions. I can't believe I have to explain these things.
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do you now accept lockdown is killing more people. 700 excess deaths w/e 7th in private homes.

I have accepted it since the 5 years average for all deaths has only been tracking a couple hundred under. We really should have seen it tracking a lot lower vs 5 year average

this is the evidence that you previously asked for on another thread
 
GazC_MFC said:
do you now accept lockdown is killing more people. 700 excess deaths w/e 7th in private homes.

I have accepted it since the 5 years average for all deaths has only been tracking a couple hundred under. We really should have seen it tracking a lot lower vs 5 year average

this is the evidence that you previously asked for on another thread
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Is it?
 
SmallTown said:
Sorry I missed the bit where you, or Mr Neil gave the evidence the excess deaths were caused specifically by lockdown. I'm sure you posted it.
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well considering the ons figures were released yesterdy and the fact Andrew Neil doesn’t ever look like a prat on things you can check, most people can put 2 and 2 together.

Ive done a bit more research into the figures and it turns out that hospital deaths are down.

I’m still in the view that some of the hospital deaths will have happened earlier due to the age that people die, but it won’t be to the tune of 700
 
It's pointless engaging ST @GazC_MFC he doesn't accept anything other than his fear.. All the piles of statistical evidence are meaningless to him.

People dying due to lack of access to care, famine, cancer, poverty are not as important as covid, a virus that claims at worst 0.6% (note at worst because it's the absolute top end of the IFR estimate) of peoples lives who catch it.

It's best to let him just carry on with his emotional non persuasive arguments.
 
Alvez_48 said:
It's pointless engaging ST @GazC_MFC he doesn't accept anything other than his fear.. All the piles of statistical evidence are meaningless to him.

People dying due to lack of access to care, famine, cancer, poverty are not as important as covid, a virus that claims at worst 0.6% (note at worst because it's the absolute top end of the IFR estimate) of peoples lives who catch it.

It's best to let him just carry on with his emotional non persuasive arguments.
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if you don’t track and trace you have to go down the route Sweden did I believe.

personally it should be track and trace, but if the disease of rife before you put in place you have to restrict social contact. Social distancing and protect the vulnerable
 
So we're at the point now where the Pandemic by any measure is essentially over.. The pattern through these 'spikes' shows repeatedly a hot spot hits around 20% infection and then disappears.

It will be interesting to see how long the acts, rules and regulations etc will be with us, what's everyone's best guess?

Will we collectively **** ourselves again come flu season?
 
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