InglebyUTB
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Fans are booing an anti-racism gesture.
If you’re booing a gesture that’s against racism what does that say about you?
Still booing the taking the knee
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If you’re booing a gesture that’s against racism what does that say about you?
How about something being *****? Links to controversial *****? As an act its so ***** only a few clubs do similar and entire sports don't bother with this deep and meaningful act.
Its the Emporers new clothes ...
Look at me I am so righteous.
Ok mate where were your boots made and who pays you to wear them?
Yeah, but we are not talking about that.
ForssAwakens
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I make a token gesture once a month when I do the hoovering
I wouldn’t expect anyone to boo it if they thought it was
Why would someone boo somebody making what they thought was a token gesture?
ForssAwakens
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Looks like only one person being righteous here
Frozen Horse
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Maybe we refer to those who boo as anti-anti-racists and let logic do the rest?
ForssAwakens
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so I understand this right, Pembroke is saying you can’t show support for anti racism unless your anti everything that is deemed an injustice
Laughable
Laughable
Hap
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No you're right. But that's another conversation that's got nothing to do with booing people taking the knee. What it is, on this occasion is, deflection and whataboutery.
It doesn't absolve booing people doing a simple harmless act to demonstrate their wish for a fairer world. It does suggest you have no reasonable explanation for your behaviour and should be ashamed of yourself - if you were one of those booing.
chickenrunner
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That's one explanation certainly. The lad I go to the match with has never supported taking the knee and early on when it was widely applauded he wouldn't join in. When I asked why he said it was because of the connections with Marxism.
He's totally taken in by what he reads in the right wing press and when he trots this stuff out I instantly know exactly where it's come from. Alas he's completely bought into all the culture war nonsense.
Quicksilvera
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I want to thank you for what you do Pembroke, which is outing yourself as a racism enabling nob head. At least you aren’t hiding and everyone on this forum can see you for what you are.
Who sad I was booing? I might be cringing instead at the hypocrisy.
There is not statement against equality taking the knee. It costs nothing. The emotional investment? Nil. Take the knee and what comes next, earn thousands, drive lavish and extravagant cars, live in plush houses, jet anywhere ... The nations stars go on hols in Countries balls deep in inequality. They play for owners sportwashing? They wear? They assist? They enable?
They might as well do some burpees, lunges, star jumps and squats for what they actually do.
InglebyUTB
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You’re all over the place here tying yourself in all sorts of knots. I sure nobody here also believes that someone who goes to such ridiculous lengths to defend those that boo doesn’t boo themselves.
It’s an anti racist gesture, you need to stop thinking too deeply about it.
Engage with the points made. I will pose this to you.
Who does more to fight inequality:
A footballer on thousands of pounds a week who bends their knee?
A support worker supporting the vulnerable working 40 hours a week on £9/10 an hour?
It's not about who does it and who doesn't do it, it's about nothing more than what the gesture is for and whether you agree with that message or not.
You might not think it's effective, you might think it's an empty gesture, you may think there are better ways to fight racism ... you can have a lot of valid reasons why you personally might prefer to not do it ... However, to actively boo it does nothing but demonstrate your objection to it and by association, it's meaning.
Booing demonstrates why it's necessary, booing or defending it puts you on the side of racsists... Either by being one or by being naively or ignorantly associated with them.
If you're absolutely convinced you're not a racist and you look round and find yourself in a room with a significant number or racists even agreeing with them, then perhaps it's time for a little self reflection.
Hap
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I hope you weren't booing.
I hope you're not racist.
I hope we can live in a world where it's okay to try and make people stop and consider how their actions affect society around them, without been howled at by a ignorant mob of biggots.
h_m_boro
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It's a simple anti-racism gesture. That's it. No more, no less. 30 seconds of someone's life to just shut the f*ck up and not boo.
But racists get triggered, so really makes them easy to spot and hopefully Boro start to recognise that their is a clear racist element within our support.
And absolutely guarantee 100% if the players took the knee for Ukraine the knuckle draggers would not boo.
Wonder why .......
Hap
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That's nothing to do with it.
The support worker performs a crucial role at ground level. A football team can have global influence on people opinions.
More deflection and doubling down.
Quicksilvera
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What @Hap said
Frozen Horse
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Have we had anyone come on here in the last couple of weeks and said that they boo'ed, and why? If so, I can't recall them.
We've had a parade of apologists presenting flimsy, implausible explanations of why someone would boo, but not confirming they boo'ed themselves.
Being bored of it, hostility to virtue signaling, and feeling they're being preached at have been the least convincing offered.
We must have a few posters who did it who, are happy to make their point without the anonymity of being in a crowd? Surely they can speak for themselves?
We've had a parade of apologists presenting flimsy, implausible explanations of why someone would boo, but not confirming they boo'ed themselves.
Being bored of it, hostility to virtue signaling, and feeling they're being preached at have been the least convincing offered.
We must have a few posters who did it who, are happy to make their point without the anonymity of being in a crowd? Surely they can speak for themselves?