Snake oil salesman Cummings in the sh*t

So lets just get this straight:

FACT 1: Cummings claims to have driven 260 miles so that his niece can take over childcare and support his kid should there be an emergency.
FACT 2: There was an emergency and the child was advised to be taken to hospital
FACT 3: The Niece didn't take the child to hospital Cummings (apparently on his death bed) drove to a hospital and his wife (apparently with covid) went in.

These facts are utterly at odds with each other....until you remember that FACT 1 contains the word "CLAIMS". Fact 1 is a Claim, and FACT 2 and FACT 3 show that it is indeed a false claim.

I wonder if anyone in that hospital subsequently caught covid?
 
BoroMart said:
So lets just get this straight:

FACT 1: Cummings claims to have driven 260 miles so that his niece can take over childcare and support his kid should there be an emergency.
FACT 2: There was an emergency and the child was advised to be taken to hospital
FACT 3: The Niece didn't take the child to hospital Cummings (apparently on his death bed) drove to a hospital and his wife (apparently with covid) went in.

These facts are utterly at odds with each other....until you remember that FACT 1 contains the word "CLAIMS". Fact 1 is a Claim, and FACT 2 and FACT 3 show that it is indeed a false claim.

I wonder if anyone in that hospital subsequently caught covid?
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An ambulance took the child to hospital. Cummings went the next day to pick them up.
 
Yet more lies exposed, this time by Faisal Islam the BBC economics editor who writes -

For Dominic Cummings, the PM's chief adviser, to claim, in the middle of his defence on Monday, "only last year I wrote explicitly about the danger of coronaviruses" is worthy of some inspection.
Such prescience would indeed have been impressive and helpful, and he does have a long-standing and well-known interest in mathematical modelling and big data.
Looking at his blog, there is one reference to coronavirus, and it was indeed in a blog written in March last year. But it wasn't quite as billed. It is a blog about the risk of a pandemic starting from a leak from a biological lab.
The internet archive Wayback Machine, which tracks the changing versions of publicly available websites, shows that the blog was edited some time between 9 April and 3 May this year (after the pandemic started) to insert the reference to coronavirus and Chinese labs.
It is a mystery why he felt the need to burnish his credentials as a coronavirus sage so much that he pointed to having explicitly warned about something that was only added to his blog after the event.
 
FabioPorkpie said:
Yet more lies exposed, this time by Faisal Islam the BBC economics editor who writes -

For Dominic Cummings, the PM's chief adviser, to claim, in the middle of his defence on Monday, "only last year I wrote explicitly about the danger of coronaviruses" is worthy of some inspection.
Such prescience would indeed have been impressive and helpful, and he does have a long-standing and well-known interest in mathematical modelling and big data.
Looking at his blog, there is one reference to coronavirus, and it was indeed in a blog written in March last year. But it wasn't quite as billed. It is a blog about the risk of a pandemic starting from a leak from a biological lab.
The internet archive Wayback Machine, which tracks the changing versions of publicly available websites, shows that the blog was edited some time between 9 April and 3 May this year (after the pandemic started) to insert the reference to coronavirus and Chinese labs.
It is a mystery why he felt the need to burnish his credentials as a coronavirus sage so much that he pointed to having explicitly warned about something that was only added to his blog after the event.
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That is the kind of behaviour that puts a mans credibility as a witness to events, his own or others, immediately to question. Refusal to answer questions to a parliamentary enquiry shows his arrogance, and now we have seen his privilege
 
bear66 said:
An ambulance took the child to hospital. Cummings went the next day to pick them up.
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is that true, because this morning Gove said Cummings drove his wife to the hospital and stayed in the car while his wife took the child in. I mean Cummings is a friend of 20 years, but is telling a different story.

OK, so I have listened to the story again, from Cummings, and it appears he claims an ambulance was sent, lots of inconsistencies in the government rhetoric....but Cummings also states he went to pick the wife and child up the next day.

The point still stands, if they were there for childcare in an emergency, they ignored that assistance. The mother went to hospital with the child and Cummings himself, despite his claims of being gravely ill and descending went to pick them up. Why didn't they call on the niece at any point (take the kid to hospital or return mother/child from hospital)? If the reason for being up north was assistance for their child in emergency, yet they both at various times left the house to support child, then they didn't need any assistance, and in fact rejected the need for such assistance, it was pointless being there.
 
This Mob of angry media line - what during lock down when no one was allowed out.

This vulnerable child line is a joke. Miriam cates mp on now Is just desperate she actually used the term excuse as in he had a great excuse.

and this he did it protect the wider public just makes no sense at all none.

it’s Pathetic.
 
FabioPorkpie said:
Yet more lies exposed, this time by Faisal Islam the BBC economics editor who writes -

For Dominic Cummings, the PM's chief adviser, to claim, in the middle of his defence on Monday, "only last year I wrote explicitly about the danger of coronaviruses" is worthy of some inspection.
Such prescience would indeed have been impressive and helpful, and he does have a long-standing and well-known interest in mathematical modelling and big data.
Looking at his blog, there is one reference to coronavirus, and it was indeed in a blog written in March last year. But it wasn't quite as billed. It is a blog about the risk of a pandemic starting from a leak from a biological lab.
The internet archive Wayback Machine, which tracks the changing versions of publicly available websites, shows that the blog was edited some time between 9 April and 3 May this year (after the pandemic started) to insert the reference to coronavirus and Chinese labs.
It is a mystery why he felt the need to burnish his credentials as a coronavirus sage so much that he pointed to having explicitly warned about something that was only added to his blog after the event.
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Its mind boggling isn't it? In the midst of his carefully crafted work of fiction he still feels the need to throw an additional lie into the mix, one that isn't even relevant. What was the point? To try and prove how bloody brilliant and important he is? Staggering.

He's still going nowhere though. Under normal circumstances he'd be long gone, but we know this lot pride themselves on breaking convention. We're essentially living in a dictatorship for the next 5 years. Enjoy.
 
BoroMart said:
is that true, because this morning Gove said Cummings drove his wife to the hospital and stayed in the car while his wife took the child in. I mean Cummings is a friend of 20 years, but is telling a different story.

OK, so I have listened to the story again, from Cummings, and it appears he claims an ambulance was sent, lots of inconsistencies in the government rhetoric....but Cummings also states he went to pick the wife and child up the next day.

The point still stands, if they were there for childcare in an emergency, they ignored that assistance. The mother went to hospital with the child and Cummings himself, despite his claims of being gravely ill and descending went to pick them up. Why didn't they call on the niece at any point (take the kid to hospital or return mother/child from hospital)? If the reason for being up north was assistance for their child in emergency, yet they both at various times left the house to support child, then they didn't need any assistance, and in fact rejected the need for such assistance, it was pointless being there.
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Agree the point stands, but he said he was called by his wife; he went to pick them up as there were no taxis, but he didn't get out of the car at the hospital.
 
bear66 said:
Agree the point stands, but he said he was called by his wife; he went to pick them up as there were no taxis, but he didn't get out of the car at the hospital.
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yup, so it seems Gove remembered the lie incorrectly, that's what happens the more complex the web, the closer it gets to breaking.

So surely if, by his own statement and admission, he had quickly descended healthwise, why did he feel it was his job to drive to hospital and collect wife and child, he had a family that were there to help?! It makes a mockery of the whole thing. If the only help they were prepared to give was bring bags of shopping to the door, Waitrose can do that in London.

Second point, driving while seriously ill is surely a road traffic offence, and leaving the home with covid symptoms is also an offence under the new emergency health laws that he drew up. So that's two road traffic offences and three covid violations that the government are trying to sweep under the carpet.
 
BoroMart said:
yup, so it seems Gove remembered the lie incorrectly, that's what happens the more complex the web, the closer it gets to breaking.

So surely if, by his own statement and admission, he had quickly descended healthwise, why did he feel it was his job to drive to hospital and collect wife and child, he had a family that were there to help?! It makes a mockery of the whole thing. If the only help they were prepared to give was bring bags of shopping to the door, Waitrose can do that in London.

Second point, driving while seriously ill is surely a road traffic offence, and leaving the home with covid symptoms is also an offence under the new emergency health laws that he drew up. So that's two road traffic offences and three covid violations that the government are trying to sweep under the carpet.
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He's done nothing wrong . . . . or more accurately, he's hardly done anything right.
 
His wife’s Spectator Column claiming he collapsed and was unable to move for ten days is pretty damning evidence that either he wasn’t very ill or she was just making it up. And of course no mention of the fact they were in Durham not London - what a pair of shiesters



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Funky_Chicken said:
His wife’s Spectator Column claiming he collapsed and was unable to move for ten days is pretty damning evidence that either he wasn’t very ill or she was just making it up. And of course no mention of the fact they were in Durham not London - what a pair of shiesters



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So who did pick them up from the hospital?
 
Well apparently Cummings claims he picked them up because there “was no taxis” despite it being the height of lockdown with not many people about 🤔 miraculously he arose from his bed and was able to drive again - what a trooper




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Funky_Chicken said:
Well apparently Cummings claims he picked them up because there “was no taxis” despite it being the height of lockdown with not many people about 🤔 miraculously he arose from his bed and was able to drive again - what a trooper




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Or his wife's account is correct and someone else did. It's difficult to drive if you can't move.
 
Someone just pointed out a resolution to the Cummings situation

"They had Schrodinger’s Covid, because they hadn’t been tested, they simultaneously had it and didn’t have it, whichever fits their narrative"
 
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