Roadmap may be affected - Indian variant

Unless Johnson gets his act together and starts doing the sensible common sense options then I’m increasingly starting to believe the conspiracy theories.

We’ve gone from many years of everybody flogging away trying to squeeze the extra small percentage of profit or efficiency at work to just closing down vast swathes of our economy with no real concern about having to do it again.

The vaccines were supposed to release us and yet a major decision has been taken to put us at risk of a new variant which has swept through India by keeping the air corridor open.

Just because he is popular amongst a certain section of voters doesn’t mean all this is acceptable.

Something doesn’t add up.
 
So the BBC news says, the gap between vaccines for over 50’s and extremely vulnerable is to decrease from 12 weeks to 8 weeks, so how will that work, will they need to contact all the people in that category that are due for their 2nd jab in June and get them all in, in the next week or so???
 
Holgate, and I have said this before, Johnson wants his emergency covid bill extending another 6 months from July. Did he let the India variant in deliberatley? I don't know, I doubt it, but it suits him and his cabinet to be Able to steal for another 6 months. It really is that simple. It's why he didn't want lockdowns, it's why he didn't mind bodies piling up. He is a sociopathic nutter interested only in getting rich which he believes is his birthright.
 
jam69 said:
We allowed flights to continue coming in from India despite knowing they were infected people on thise flights, apparently because johnson was desperate not to upset the Indians as he's desperate for a good trade deal
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Because we no longer have trade deals with the eu
 
Laughing said:
Holgate, and I have said this before, Johnson wants his emergency covid bill extending another 6 months from July. Did he let the India variant in deliberatley? I don't know, I doubt it, but it suits him and his cabinet to be Able to steal for another 6 months. It really is that simple. It's why he didn't want lockdowns, it's why he didn't mind bodies piling up. He is a sociopathic nutter interested only in getting rich which he believes is his birthright.
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A few months back, even though I don’t like Johnson and the way he goes on, I wouldn’t have agreed with you but increasingly it’s looking like the only explanation.

I actually think he will have been well aware of the dangers of the Indian air corridor because the likes of Vallance and Whitty will have warned him but, for whatever reason of gain in another direction, he chose to ignore it.

He will now think nothing about locking back down and finding some reason why it will not be the government’s fault.

And millions out there will be happy because it’s Johnson but that does not make it right.
 
HolgateCorner said:
A few months back, even though I don’t like Johnson and the way he goes on, I wouldn’t have agreed with you but increasingly it’s looking like the only explanation.

I actually think he will have been well aware of the dangers of the Indian air corridor because the likes of Vallance and Whitty will have warned him but, for whatever reason of gain in another direction, he chose to ignore it.

He will now think nothing about locking back down and finding some reason why it will not be the government’s fault.

And millions out there will be happy because it’s Johnson but that does not make it right.
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And then you have the so called 'opposition' screaming for longer, harder, stricter lockdowns. The moment we get nearer any degree of normality you have Sky and BBC reporters positively ejaculating at the threat of further lockdowns, not caring one jot about the mental health crisis this is causing. We are at the mercy of SAGE's behavioural scientists who have admitted using terror techniques to petrify the nation. I do not see how this ends, they'll always be able to dig out a new variant. The only thing that makes any sense now are the conspiracy theories.
 
SmallTown said:
Actually the fairly likely comment isn't someone being frightened at all. Everything we know about viruses suggests this will be the case
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As I just said to a previous post, the only virus I'm aware of that changes enough to require different vaccines on a regular basis, is the flu.

Can you point to any other viruses that have this propensity?
 
Liamo said:
As I just said to a previous post, the only virus I'm aware of that changes enough to require different vaccines on a regular basis, is the flu.

Can you point to any other viruses that have this propensity?
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"While the influenza virus mutates constantly and requires a yearly shot that offers a certain percentage of protection, old reliable measles needs only a two-dose vaccine during childhood for lifelong immunity. A new study has an explanation: The surface proteins that the measles virus uses to enter cells are ineffective if they suffer any mutation, meaning that any changes to the virus come at a major cost."

From a 2015 paper. So it looks like the flu virus is just different from measles. Presumably Covid behaves more like a flu virus than a measles one.
 
Liamo said:
As I just said to a previous post, the only virus I'm aware of that changes enough to require different vaccines on a regular basis, is the flu.

Can you point to any other viruses that have this propensity?
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Rhinoviruses for a start. Pretty much any virus. It's simple Darwinism. They are bound to evolve giving the amount of times they replicate.
 
SmallTown said:
Rhinoviruses for a start. Pretty much any virus. It's simple Darwinism. They are bound to evolve giving the amount of times they replicate.
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This link suggests rhinoviruses are unlikely to mutate. The difficulty in getting a vaccine is the number of forms of rhinovirus with about 160 which were identified decades ago.
 
Liamo said:
I'm not aware of any vaccine, except the flu vaccine, which is continually modified.*

Which others do you know of?

*In terms of being changed to combat a new variety of the virus.
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There is only a 0.3% difference in the make up of the variant of concern to the original variant first discovered in Wuhan apparently.
 
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