Our world beating variant

FatCat said:
How do you think this thing is still spreading a year down the line - people, that’s the answer. They won’t do as they are asked. Ok “on the whole” is a bit strong but it certainly isn’t a minority as some would have you believe.
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The restrictions can only reduce the spread, you won't stop transmission totally. To blame the public is a bit ingenious to be honest and straight from the Tory press office.

For example the vast majority of spread comes from the workplace. We HAVE to go to work. So is that the public's fault? No. But they don't like us to talk about it spreading at work as it scares people... so they blame the odd neighbour visiting their sister or someone driving 100 miles for a McDonalds.

Employers are still making staff go to work when it's not necessary. This has happened at my wife's work. They very recently had an employees father die of Covid so you think that might make them take it seriously but no. There is an office of 7 who have to go in (could all work from home), 5 of them have Covid and 2 have needed oxygen.

But of course, it's the public...
 
I blame Jeremy Corbyn myself, it’s his fault this incompetent lying bunch of Tories (who most of the Tory Party don’t even like) are in power.

Him and that Dianne Abbot.

Oh....and his brother as well......😉
 
MolteniArcore said:
The restrictions can only reduce the spread, you won't stop transmission totally. To blame the public is a bit ingenious to be honest and straight from the Tory press office.

For example the vast majority of spread comes from the workplace. We HAVE to go to work. So is that the public's fault? No. But they don't like us to talk about it spreading at work as it scares people... so they blame the odd neighbour visiting their sister or someone driving 100 miles for a McDonalds.

Employers are still making staff go to work when it's not necessary. This has happened at my wife's work. They very recently had an employees father die of Covid so you think that might make them take it seriously but no. There is an office of 7 who have to go in (could all work from home), 5 of them have Covid and 2 have needed oxygen.

But of course, it's the public...
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The Tories are lining up the poorer end of society for the blame and in recent days the spotlight is falling on the NHS.

I think it’s simply out of desperation though rather than any grand strategy to get themselves out of trouble on the Covid debacle.
 
So when the original strain came out of China it was the governments fault as they didn't shut borders and react quickly enough. When a new variant (that may or may not have originated here) spreads across the world, its the governments fault again.

Now I believe the government have been useless from the start of this thing, but I'm struggling with the logic here?
 
MolteniArcore said:
The restrictions can only reduce the spread, you won't stop transmission totally. To blame the public is a bit ingenious to be honest and straight from the Tory press office.

For example the vast majority of spread comes from the workplace. We HAVE to go to work. So is that the public's fault? No. But they don't like us to talk about it spreading at work as it scares people... so they blame the odd neighbour visiting their sister or someone driving 100 miles for a McDonalds.

Employers are still making staff go to work when it's not necessary. This has happened at my wife's work. They very recently had an employees father die of Covid so you think that might make them take it seriously but no. There is an office of 7 who have to go in (could all work from home), 5 of them have Covid and 2 have needed oxygen.

But of course, it's the public...
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I may. It be up to date on the rules but I thought people were told to work from home where possible. Surely in the example you give the employer is at fault?
 
MolteniArcore said:
The restrictions can only reduce the spread, you won't stop transmission totally. To blame the public is a bit ingenious to be honest and straight from the Tory press office.
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I don’t really buy into the gvt blaming people - they would have very rich pickings and out a lot more focus on rule breakers than they do. I think they have been far too lenient for too long so I do take free that this is their strategy to blame the public. I blame the public as I see what’s going on around me , in my street when I’m out for a run.
 
FatCat said:
I don’t really buy into the gvt blaming people - they would have very rich pickings and out a lot more focus on rule breakers than they do. I think they have been far too lenient for too long so I do take free that this is their strategy to blame the public. I blame the public as I see what’s going on around me , in my street when I’m out for a run.
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The government really are blaming the people. I posted a few weeks ago about the really sinister radio ads that are clearly and blatantly designed to set us against each other. The fact we are having this conversation has shown that, sadly, it has worked.
 
SmallTown said:
The government really are blaming the people. I posted a few weeks ago about the really sinister radio ads that are clearly and blatantly designed to set us against each other. The fact we are having this conversation has shown that, sadly, it has worked.
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The whole pandemic has turned a lot of people in this country into judgmental buggers, and we have a raft of people who are basically spending most of their time twitching at the curtains and spying on neighbours.

And I agree with you ST, those adverts are designed to do this.

Was it the Stasi who employed this tactic to keep their people under control ?
 
Tommy_Dickfingers said:
The whole pandemic has turned a lot of people in this country into judgmental buggers, and we have a raft of people who are basically spending most of their time twitching at the curtains and spying on neighbours.

And I agree with you ST, those adverts are designed to do this.

Was it the Stasi who employed this tactic to keep their people under control ?
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Yeah it's certainly Goebbelian to do this. It's a scary slow drip drip of information designed to take pressure off the government and keep the population divided.

Scary stuff.
 
Pak_Doo_Ik said:
So when the original strain came out of China it was the governments fault as they didn't shut borders and react quickly enough. When a new variant (that may or may not have originated here) spreads across the world, its the governments fault again.

Now I believe the government have been useless from the start of this thing, but I'm struggling with the logic here?
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If the UK strain didn't come out of the UK, perhaps the original didn't come out of China. Who knows?

I know it's playing havoc, a company in Hartlepool has been walloped by it, the gaffer, who is a lot younger than me, has been in an induced coma for a month already.

So get the vaccine but more importantly, isolate until the cases drop by a long way from where they are now. No matter how many nutters argue against it, it's the right thing to do.
 
SmallTown said:
The government really are blaming the people. I posted a few weeks ago about the really sinister radio ads that are clearly and blatantly designed to set us against each other. The fact we are having this conversation has shown that, sadly, it has worked.
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I can’t speak for you but ignoring the ads - I didn’t see them as mentioned at the time - I would still be blaming my neighbours opposite who had a party last weekend, my neighbours next door who constantly have people in and out of their house who constantly go out in their car five times a day ( they are retired) her mum is shielding. The neighbours next to them who have a constant stream of family and friends coming around so their kids can play together. The view from many on this board seems to be it’s part of a strategy by the gvt - it’s really not I’m just giving you examples of what I see day in day out on my street- these people are at fault it’s not more complicated than that.
 
FatCat said:
I can’t speak for you but ignoring the ads - I didn’t see them as mentioned at the time - I would still be blaming my neighbours opposite who had a party last weekend, my neighbours next door who constantly have people in and out of their house who constantly go out in their car five times a day ( they are retired) her mum is shielding. The neighbours next to them who have a constant stream of family and friends coming around so their kids can play together. The view from many on this board seems to be it’s part of a strategy by the gvt - it’s really not I’m just giving you examples of what I see day in day out on my street- these people are at fault it’s not more complicated than that.
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Your using your own experience and applying it to every street in the country.

your making assumptions on your own experience
 
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