Neil Warnock surpasses all my Expectations

There you go again, refusing to answer the questions raised. Just dodging them like you always do because you don't like the answers.

And as for comparing their league positions....at least put some perspective in place. Warnock took over when we were in the bottom 6.....Pulis took over when we were 7th? 8th?

And Pulis inherited a much better squad than Warnock did.

But that doesn't help your argument does it? So yeah, best leave that bit out shall we??

As for Pulis and Warnock it's simple, very, very simple.

One has created a huge buzz around the place, got all players, fans, everyone pulling in the same direction...which given the circumstances, won't have been easy.

The other just moaned all the time at the lack of width (when he had £25m transfer kitty and had wingers at his disposal) and criticised his own players, amongst other things. Which in turn, led to a horrible toxic environment around the whole place.

Warnock has done more in 1 transfer window, with less funds available, than Pulis did in nearly 2 years. Warnock has identified exactly what we needed, whereas Pulis was happy ******* up the transfer funds on signing a million CMs.

It's amazing the measures you'll go to, to defend your hero. When in simple terms. He failed. He categorically failed in his objectives.

He was brought here because Gibson thought he was a sure thing for promotion. And having 2 cracks at the whip and a large amount of money to spend, he failed. All whilst playing the worst branded football we've seen in a long long time, which is funny because Aitor was lambasted on here by yourself for playing awful football....yet in turn, Aitor got results unlike that idiot.

Warnock's man management, his tactics, set up, mannerism is far greater and better than Pulis in every department.

One day, you will see that Pulis failed and set us back years with his 50 central midfield signings and only now are we starting to recover from the mess he left us in....actually, you may not realise.

Answer one question...I dare you...

Was Pulis a success or a failure?

Answer on a postcard please.
 
Waiting for what? You’re doing your usual trick when you’ve got nothing - create an argument with yourself. Your going back over old arguments about Pulis’ time at the club, he’s gone. Get over it. You got what you wanted when you got Woodgate.

I’ve highlighted several things which you’ve ignored, and after I’ve highlighted how great it is to be rid of overpaid mercenaries who don’t want to be here you become obsessed with Martin Braithwaite, the very definition of who I was talking about.

So in summary, you think Warnock is great and Pulis was a disaster despite:

Pulis having more points, more goals and higher up in the league at the same stage of the season, and you wanted him sacked then.

Say “it couldn’t get worse under Pulis” despite us finishing 7th and we’re currently.....7th

Praise Warnock’s for how we attack despite only 6 teams scoring less goals than us, Pulis was a negative dinosaur when only 4 teams had scored less than us.

Both managers have given us the best defence in the league.

Blame Assomablonga’s form on Pulis man management, despite him not improving under Warnock either despite being given a ton of undeserved praise and the captaincy.

Criticise Pulis for the lack of shots, despite being the 5th best in the league for shots per game that season.

Criticise Pulis for playing players out of position, when Warnock has done the same.

Criticise Pulis for playing too many defenders in certain games, when Warnock has done the same.

Criticise Pulis for the fans being toxic when they’ve always being toxic and Warnock is yet to manage a single game infront of a regular matchday crowd.

Criticise Pulis’ press conferences, when he’s said as many complementary things about the area as Warnock.

Think Pulis is a charlatan and Warnock is a great manager, despite Pulis having many seasons in the Premier League and Warnock failing every single time he’s managed in that division.

The two managers philosophies are very similar. The performances and results are very similar. If you were to give me a choice between the two in our current situation, I would 100% pick Warnock. He has the nouse in this division.

But don’t kid yourself that they’re apples and oranges, the difference is hating one of them is a hill you’ve decided to die on whatever facts get put in-front of you.
 

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Biggest problem? How do we replace him when he decides he’s had enough? Hope that isn’t a decision needed to be made in the next year or two!
Warnock made this point in one of his recent interviews. He said it is so difficult for chairmen to make the right appointment. He was not being conceited he just was recognising how difficult the manager market is.
 
There you go again, refusing to answer the questions raised. Just dodging them like you always do because you don't like the answers.

Answer one question...I dare you...

Was Pulis a success or a failure?

Answer on a postcard please.

I’ve cut out all your waffle because it’s got absolutely nothing to do with the false statements and comparisons you’re making.

I’ve answered this question over and over again, yet every time you ask it like it’s a “gotcha” question. You’re just doing your standard defence of projection.

We didn’t get promoted so his time at the club was ultimately a failure. I don’t know how many more times I can answer this question for you before it will sink in.

Where you go maniacally off the cliff edge is when you say he was a disaster and set us back years, when you can’t name a single measurable way he made the club worse - better league position, transfer profit, reduced wage bill.

You keep going on about the signings made when he was manager but McNair is one of our best players, Saville is joint top scorer and Spence has potential to be a top player.

You thought he did that bad that “literally anyone could do a better job” and to this day have refused to accept you were utterly wrong in that assessment when you got what you wanted and Woodgate came in.
 
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Good. Glad we can finally agree on him being a failure. That wasn’t hard was it?

And as for Saville McNair and Spence...they were half the players under Pulis compared to how they’re performing under Warnock.

McNair didn’t even get a look in under Pulis. And you’re crediting him with being one of our best players? My turn to pull out the LOL emojis 🤣🤣

Saville was like a lost lamb under Pulis. He didn’t know where he was playing half the time. Now under Warnock he’s looking pretty good. He’s actually looking like the player we saw at Millwall and is now chipping in with goals.

There’s two prime examples how different Warnock and Pulis are.

As for Spence. How many games did he play under Pulis? What’s he got to do with anything?

He wasn’t a CM so of course he didn’t get picked.
 
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Pulis did a decent job but was never the right man for promotion. He scraps to a minimum level required so would be ideal in the PL to stay up, but an expensive flop if we are trying to go up with 90 points.
 
What is Warnock’s team doing now that Pulis wasn’t?
Fighting for every ball with a team spirit that has surpassed any other I’ve seen since I can remember and playing good attacking football in the process (Warnock has been framed by the media as being a difficult team to watch)
Tough yet attack minded is the summary of us.
Nothing like pulis’s team when he was in charge.
Simple buddy.
 
We’ve played players out of position this season, as we did under Pulis.

Only six teams have scored less goals than us at the moment, similar to our record under Pulis.

We have the best defence in the league, as we did under Pulis.

Which of those statements are incorrect?
What was apparent is that numerous players lacked confidence versus Warnock who has every single player bursting for a chance and waiting patiently for their chance and busting a gut when given that chance.
Psychological stats can’t be recorded in black and white but they are still in our ‘feeling about a situation.....always
 
Good. Glad we can finally agree on him being a failure. That wasn’t hard was it?

We’ve discussed this and I’ve told you this over and over again. Unlike you I’m capable of answering simple questions, where as you simply deflect and ask questions yourself.

You seem to think players come to a club and instantly perform well. Some do, some don’t. When McNair got a chance under Pulis he was often poor, Saville was good in flashes. Given time they’ve become good players, after you previously described them as “absolute dross”.

“ Saville was like a lost lamb under Pulis. He didn’t know where he was playing half the time. Now under Pulis he’s looking pretty good. He’s actually looking like the player we saw at Millwall and is now chipping in with goals.”

That statement is the perfect example of your detachment from basic facts and reality. He spent most of that season playing central midfield or on the left, and chipped in with 4 goals🤦🏻‍♂️

Do you finally accept that you were wrong that “literally anybody” could do a better job than Pulis and he wasn’t a disaster that set us back years?
 
I’ve cut out all your waffle because it’s got absolutely nothing to do with the false statements and comparisons you’re making.

I’ve answered this question over and over again, yet every time you ask it like it’s a “gotcha” question. You’re just doing your standard defence of projection.

We didn’t get promoted so his time at the club was ultimately a failure. I don’t know how many more times I can answer this question for you before it will sink in.

Where you go maniacally off the cliff edge is when you say he was a disaster and set us back years, when you can’t name a single measurable way he made the club worse - better league position, transfer profit, reduced wage bill.

You keep going on about the signings made when he was manager but McNair is one of our best players, Saville is joint top scorer and Spence has potential to be a top player.

You thought he did that bad that “literally anyone could do a better job” and to this day have refused to accept you were utterly wrong in that assessment when you got what you wanted and Woodgate came in.
POG. You boring narcissist
 
He’s doing the job of Mowbray and Karanka in one.. he’s doing it quicker, with less money and is more fun.

It’s a hard thing to bring the love into a team.. Karanka did it with for the season we reached the playoff final.. I’m loving the team right now!!

January is going to be really hard!! We need to bring in two strong goalscorers (IMO) to get us over the line.
 
It’s loads better and I like our players.

I had contempt for the vast majority of the players going back 3-4 years, but that isn’t down to one manager.

There is barely any difference in the quality of football. We’re still defensively solid, direct, very difficult to beat and don’t score many goals.

But I don’t have a problem with that, I didn’t last time.
 
Yeah and it’s fantastic now...
Yeah, it’s pretty good actually. Solid, resilient, attacking and try to shot as much as we can
Nothing like the pulis team
Although I think pulis was a success here getting us into the playoffs and then 7th but it was painful to watch! End of...
 
Yeah, it’s pretty good actually. Solid, resilient, attacking and try to shot as much as we can
Nothing like the pulis team
Although I think pulis was a success here getting us into the playoffs and then 7th but it was painful to watch! End of...

First season was a relative success
Second season was a relative failure

Ultimately he didn’t achieve his objective so it was right for him to not have his deal renewed.

But how some people can regard a manager with a 44% win ratio over a season and a half as a disaster is beyond me.

It literally halved under the next guy.
 
Yeah, it’s pretty good actually. Solid, resilient, attacking and try to shot as much as we can
Nothing like the pulis team
Although I think pulis was a success here getting us into the playoffs and then 7th but it was painful to watch! End of...
Pulis had an embarrassment of riches at his disposal. 7th was a failure in my opinion after sacrificing so much football.
 
First season was a relative success
Second season was a relative failure

Ultimately he didn’t achieve his objective so it was right for him to not have his deal renewed.

But how some people can regard a manager with a 44% win ratio over a season and a half as a disaster is beyond me.

It literally halved under the next guy.
Pog. Pogggg! Thing is mate.....no one cares in reality
What we care about is the NOW. Enjoy the now and the journey otherwise you’ll blink and it’ll be gone (whilst you were chuntering about how toxic our fans are/were blah blah blah)

Enjoy the now
 
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