Glover_elbow
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yes they are cheap but not often purchased
Middle-class trappings
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Billy69_uk
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newyddion
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Very much so. It seems we have adopted the American definition of class.. which is all very well, unfortunately our actual class system still remains.
FartingGnome
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Deviating here, a good many years ago I was cajoled by the Acoustics people at Salford Uni to do one of their hearing tests, it involved a spell in an anechoic chamber and I can vouch for all that. Even weirder was an echoic chamber - smooth concrete walls, floor and ceiling with no parallel surfaces, everything at an angle. Slightest sound bounced around for ages. Really disorienting.We have an Anechoic chamber at work used for noise testing of vehicles and generators etc. Its one of the spookiest places I have ever been. When you stand in it, there is "complete" silence, no background noise, no echo when someone speaks, you cant tell the direction someone is speaking to you from and you can hear your own heartbeat and pulse/blood flow. It does induce some kind of motion sickness in some people, I am guessing because the body doesn't know whats happening and thinks it under attack. No egg cartons were used.
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The_Lizards_Jumpers
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To me being middle class isn't about money exclusively, more a mindset and attitude.
There's plenty of people I'd consider "middle class" (private / boarding school education, home county dwelling, exclusively white, some level of inherited capital, surround themselves with other similar type people, probably have a holiday home that "belongs to the family" etc) who have less disposable income than people I'd consider "working class".
If this thread were entitled "things you bought because you have a decent disposable income" that would make more sense.
BoroMart
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Yes you are right, I mean we could all afford to go to see a west end musical, but working class people generally don't want to. We could all afford to sign up for adult Salsa classes but most of us would think it poncy. We could all afford to do a watercolour class one per week, but many would consider that pretentious.
SmallTown
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It really doesn't mate. I think you may have have wrong person.
SmallTown
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I don't think being middle class as about money, or buying the most expensive things (for example, I would expect middle class people to have smaller and cheaper TV than working class people)
HarryVegas
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And of course this working class hangover is precisely why I spent years hiding the fact I wrote poetry and played music, like it was a dirty secret. Anyone who was into the arts or drama at my school was likely to be labelled 'a poof'. I do such stuff for a living now but it took a lot of wrong turns and dead ends before I got there.
Being brought up with working class values, while I wouldn't change my upbringing for anything, isn't itself perfect. Sometimes I catch myself almost wearing my class as a badge of honour, but in retrospect it was also very limiting.
Jostler
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As the home tap is a relatively new thing, you'd hope smaller craft breweries would look at the opportunity to create kegs that just happen to fit and both the Perfect Draft and the Sub, I'm sure it could be got around in a non-trademark infringement way.
spanishman
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A wifi enabled bathroom towel rail and a wifi enabled set of bathroom scales.
Jostler
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Pffffft Garlic press, so early 2000's, a garlic grater plate is where it's at.
Jostler
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This!
It's not what you can buy, it's how you choose to live your life, hobbies your partake in, how you behave in general surroundings, company you keep, education to a point, career / business choice, passive income sources, property/land you own and a fair other number of factors.
HarryVegas
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I'm obviously something of a caveman. I actually enjoy cutting them up manually on a chopping board, it feels like part of the cooking process.
Jostler
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I was reliably told by the charming salesman at Thame food festival that doing it with a grater plate would make the garlic sweeter, who am I to argue.
buffaloboro
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No, only a vita mix
atypical_boro
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Yes, although as I say, that's a very British definition.
The_Lizards_Jumpers
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Don't think I've said it isn't.
The American middle class is much more aligned to this thread, and doesn't so much rely on your family history but more you social standing and relative wealth and in turn what you own (whether it be on tick or not).
atypical_boro
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I think Chris Rock did a good bit about rich v wealthy in one of his specials. So there is an element of it in America but nowhere near like it is here.
Sometimes people in Britain think class is defined by where you go on holiday and, whilst it may be that its relevant here, it really isn't in the vast majority of other countries.
I don't really understand why Britain clings on to this deep-rooted traditional view of class (heavily linked to 'sophistication') but we do.
In India, if you're middle class its simply because you earn more than most, and that is basically it.