Gold Season Card Holders

I don't think there is a solution that suits everyone. If there are any more tickets left after the closure of season ticket renewals, then they could be made available using a ballot for existing ST holders based time of having a ST, or even the points system.
In addition the club need to make the live streams more widely available to all Last season ST holders either free or say £1 per match. They have got to keep the interest going somehow so when this is over we can attract the support required
 
They won’t attract the support they want when this is over by closing ticket availability to the swathes they want to attract back.
 
As per live streams at present the EFL have not revealed whether this will be possible. The information I have been given is that they may have the misguided opinion that ifollow and red button is a good enough service.
 
Robert Nichols said:
As per live streams at present the EFL have not revealed whether this will be possible. The information I have been given is that they may have the misguided opinion that ifollow and red button is a good enough service.
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If they went with that then you’d lose huge numbers of fans. If fans can’t go to games there has to be a legal and fair priced way for them to watch the game from home.
 
Humpty said:
They won’t attract the support they want when this is over by closing ticket availability to the swathes they want to attract back.
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I fully understand the risks but if the club lock it down to what has been sold already, leaving the 1100, should it be ballot for season ticket holders, match day sales to season ticket holders from last season or general sale?
 
We, as supporters who have been 'locked out' should be pushing for low cost/free live streams like the end of last season.
A live stream season ticket anyone?
 
One possible thought - what if an all season card Riverside had a 11-12 000 capacity and allowing 500 match by match reduced the capacity to 9000.
Figures off the top of my head - but the point is what if having match by match tickets caused the capacity to come down a long way. And also with 13 midweek games next season what difficulties could that cause with quick turnarounds from weekends for fans as well as Boro admin and also midweeks being less attractive to many. Imagine if you went into a ballot and got several midweeks but couldnt attend them.
 
OK some ideas I will take to the supporters meeting - note form

Ideas for Supporters Meeting


GC holders 1st priority for remaining seats.


500 match day tickets – ballot of season card holders and other fans? Or divide ballot by surname – keeps family groups together. Or straight sale. But others saying season card holders only, first come first served or by ballot.
Make club as accessible to everyone still – important not to let young supporters drift away. 18 months without a live game could have a liftetime consequence.
- club should make that point as strongly as possible to EFL re tv rights.

Distributed by loyalty/longest serving priority.


Make sure club announce all loyalty points and privileges suspended for season. All seats retained for next season.

Maybe also an amnesty if people want to give back tickets.


Club should give a statement of reassurance to make people feel secure going back.


A formal device where season ticket holders can contact the club in advance for their seats to be made available (subject to bubbles) etc and for an admin fee to a waiting list – there could easily be a lot of seats in this bracket.

A few ideas taken from the different threads.
 
Rob surely GC holders have already had their priority opportunity. Why are they getting another one?
 
Robert Nichols said:
One possible thought - what if an all season card Riverside had a 11-12 000 capacity and allowing 500 match by match reduced the capacity to 9000.
Figures off the top of my head - but the point is what if having match by match tickets caused the capacity to come down a long way. And also with 13 midweek games next season what difficulties could that cause with quick turnarounds from weekends for fans as well as Boro admin and also midweeks being less attractive to many. Imagine if you went into a ballot and got several midweeks but couldnt attend them.
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And this is exactly it, the admin and overheads involved in the logistics and say a dad and young son get allocated a night match, someone who travels a long way gets a night match, how do you configure that block, quick turn rounds etc.
 
What ever the capacity works out at the club should sell them all to season tickets to maximise income.

What ever they do someone is going to feel let down/disappointed and have there sense of self entitlement affected. Future fans turned off etc but there is no way of having a totally fair system or pleasing everyone.

Sell all the remaining tickets on a first come first served basis.
 
the_holgate_roof said:
And this is exactly it, the admin and overheads involved in the logistics and say a dad and young son get allocated a night match, someone who travels a long way gets a night match, how do you configure that block, quick turn rounds etc.
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Not at all, people would only enter the ballot for particular games not generally. Other clubs seem to be able to manage a ballot system.
 
Other clubs - but no one has as yet put it into practice.
What on earth will the likes of Everton do - 30 000 season tickets - they are just starting to debate what that does and doesn't entitle them to. In an old ground like Goodison the capactity is presumably going to be pretty low. There are going to be some mammoth problems in Premier.
I was talking to someone at Blackpool just now - their club reckon they can survive financially on less than a third capacity - they effectively road tested this for a season when the Oyston Out boycott was in full swing. So, could it be that Championship clubs will be hit harder than prudent League One and below?
 
Robert Nichols said:
Other clubs - but no one has as yet put it into practice.
What on earth will the likes of Everton do - 30 000 season tickets - they are just starting to debate what that does and doesn't entitle them to. In an old ground like Goodison the capactity is presumably going to be pretty low. There are going to be some mammoth problems in Premier.
I was talking to someone at Blackpool just now - their club reckon they can survive financially on less than a third capacity - they effectively road tested this for a season when the Oyston Out boycott was in full swing. So, could it be that Championship clubs will be hit harder than prudent League One and below?
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Err Rob on this very thread you have an example of a club that HAS put it into practice - Millwall.
 
Robert Nichols said:
Other clubs - but no one has as yet put it into practice.
What on earth will the likes of Everton do - 30 000 season tickets - they are just starting to debate what that does and doesn't entitle them to. In an old ground like Goodison the capactity is presumably going to be pretty low. There are going to be some mammoth problems in Premier.
I was talking to someone at Blackpool just now - their club reckon they can survive financially on less than a third capacity - they effectively road tested this for a season when the Oyston Out boycott was in full swing. So, could it be that Championship clubs will be hit harder than prudent League One and below?
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What were the outcomes of your meeting tonight please?
 
Millwall was actually a supporters club post - it doesn't say it anywhere on the official website, which is interesting. But what I meant was we haven't seen it actually in operation. I think I am right in saying Millwall have far less season ticket holders but do run a membership scheme. So, presumably everyone is a member of Millwall.
Mark Motley is going to send out some notes from tonight's meeting tomorrow - but I think we all agreed that the club needs to be really up front and honest about the hard choices that must be taken now.
There are two paths here - making some seats available for sale match by match - it is a significant point that 18 months without being able to see a live game could be like a lifetime. Or all being sold to season ticket holders renewing - but at that point it could be possible to develop a formal waiting list and a mechanism where season card holders can make their seats available to that list. It would have to work around bubbles of course.
 
Robert Nichols said:
Millwall was actually a supporters club post - it doesn't say it anywhere on the official website, which is interesting. But what I meant was we haven't seen it actually in operation. I think I am right in saying Millwall have far less season ticket holders but do run a membership scheme. So, presumably everyone is a member of Millwall.
Mark Motley is going to send out some notes from tonight's meeting tomorrow - but I think we all agreed that the club needs to be really up front and honest about the hard choices that must be taken now.
There are two paths here - making some seats available for sale match by match - it is a significant point that 18 months without being able to see a live game could be like a lifetime. Or all being sold to season ticket holders renewing - but at that point it could be possible to develop a formal waiting list and a mechanism where season card holders can make their seats available to that list. It would have to work around bubbles of course.
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Rob half the info on our situation is only via you or your counterparts. Of course we’ve not seen a ballot system like this before - these are unprecedented times!
 
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