BlindBoyGrunt
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This isn't the media though, it's a football forum.The grief that Keir Starmer has had is literally in this thread. From apparent Labour voters attacking Starmer for not being Corbyn.
This isn't the media though, it's a football forum.The grief that Keir Starmer has had is literally in this thread. From apparent Labour voters attacking Starmer for not being Corbyn.
This isn't the media though, it's a football forum.
If Starmer has had a free ride what has Johnson had?
The grief that Keir Starmer has had is literally in this thread.
So now you're trying to smear me because I have a different view of our current leader? Classy and hypocritical.
I always supported Jeremy Corbyn as leader, defending against the smears and lies against him. Never have I called him unelectable and was gutted at the last election.
Attacking other Labour voters for supporting Labour and you wonder why the polls favour the Tories.
The guy that scuppered the last two elections is supporting his fellow traitors and at the same time attacking the core support.Latest Yougov pol from the 4th March has them dropping another 4 points to the Tories in the latest voting intentions poll. (Conservative 45% / Labour 32%) 3 weeks ago there was just 3% difference... now its 13%
What's going wrong?
The Tories are just getting a bounce from the vaccine roll-out
Johnson will step down before too long
Support from his client journalists. Agreed.
When there's no journo in the country with the cojones to criticise the government, maybe the leader of the opposition shouldn't be going on Marr and pledging his unconditional support to the government?
This thread. FFS. Come onnnnn.
Brown and Miliband were treated very unfairly by the press. The bacon sarnie incident, the time the DM wrote that Ralph Miliband was the "man who hated britain", I remember Brown getting grief for his hand written letters to Iraq war soldiers families not being neat enough.
Corbyn got something else entirely. A character assassination beyond what any other MPs had in my lifetime. Maybe older board members can say whether it was as vicious for Foot.
Starmer's had it easy. Journalists falling over themselves to say he's forensic.
Think about it: he won them an 80 seat majority. They haven't had a strong winning election like that since 1987. Why would they gamble that on getting rid of him?
I would like to think so. Sadly, I don't see it happening.3 years till the next election. The idiots in the driving seat have plenty of time and opportunity to shoot themselves in the foot.
Also public enquiry may open a few peoples eyes
Yup, that’s the oneTBH their bounce probably hasn't happened yet. The gap will get bigger as we start to emerge from lockdown and the pubs open.
Been hearing this since last year. It's based on nothing but wishful thinking. Johnson did 8 years as London Mayor and being PM was his life's ambition. Anyone thinking he's going to gracefully bow out early doors is kidding themselves.
And now his personal poll ratings are back to being positive I can't see the tory party chasing him either. Think about it: he won them an 80 seat majority. They haven't had a strong winning election like that since 1987. Why would they gamble that on getting rid of him?
Labour could do with learning lessons from the tories. We had a leader who doubled the membership and added 2 million votes. And yet the party's MPs were briefing against him in the press, swearing at him in the House of Commons, refusing to be in his shadow cabinet, threatening to stab him in the front, playing stupid tricks with leaked voicemails to tory press officer mates.
I voted in Corbyn as leader hoping that just having him in for even a year would pull the party left of the centrist stand it had been stuck in. There were far too many Blairites still around.
As it happens, the Corbyn leadership was a total disaster. I was totally wrong about him. I did vote for Owen Smith when he challenged but he was slapped.
The divisions in the labour party are the same as those in the tory party. This political system of ours is so outdated.
We really need PR so that we can modernise and have a proper democratic representation in Parliament instead of party whip forcing votes - look what happened to HoC during the brexit votes. All leaders care more about their public perception and power than doing the right thing. Career politicians dominate in both parties.
We are constantly lied to. The whole Cummings thing showed just how arrogant the Government can be these days. Looking down a camera lens and telling us that white was black, insulting the intelligence of the entire country. We had the same thing from Labour with Blair and the Iraq war crimes.
People act like the Labour party ... isn't in financial disrepair, doesn't need to find a more solid long term revenue generator than the unions
and isn't shattered into stupid warring factions based on which way you interpreted politics books at sixth form eating each other alive on twitter every day.
I regard myself as apolitical mostly. This is borne out of a mistrust of most politicians because they seem self serving. Many make promises they rarely keep once elected. For me Labour lost the vote of the majority of working classes in the last election. They neglected the real needs and focused too much on fringe concerns, minority 'PC' issues, that the vast majority in this country has little time for. They became a Liberal elite. The party was run by Corbynites from trendy areas of London whose concerns mattered little to most peoples daily lives. London centric, and constant 'virtue signalling' annoyed the voters who were concerned about real issues like jobs, the NHS, rising crime, etc. The Tories exploited this and it worked. I see the Tories as mostly corrupt, an old boys network riddled with cronyism, broken promises and damn lies rolled out, day after day. Just my personal viewpoint. Not wanting to start an argument or discussion over this either. Stay safe everyone. Peace to all. UTB.