Get out of this Johnson

Cardiffdaffs said:
I am sure Fatcat in your city business meetings you have the finest of wines and the best cheeses served on boards with quince and crackers. Not.

You need to come out of your city bubble. From trying to say last week there were no queues for booster vaccinations to drinking Bordeaux as a norm at work. You seem to think you live in a different world.
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Not at all Cardiff daffs I think you have me all wrong. I work on projects and generally at the busier times you barely have time to go to the toilet - they are dealing with a a pandemic amongst other things so I totally get why they may stop for food and drink. It’s not like they can just go to maccy ds to get some food is it. Also they can’t just go home. It’s different as this is a place of work plus residence. Far too much is being made of it and why it’s plastered over every channel is beyond me.
Like I said before the Christmas parties now that’s a story worthy of the vitriol been thrown about!
 
Adi_Dem said:
If you think that’s what is the central issue here then you’re either hard of thinking for or deliberately missing the point. I suspect very much it’s the latter.
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It seems to be high up on peoples agendas. I know what the central issue is here.
 
FatCat said:
Not at all Cardiff daffs I think you have me all wrong. I work on projects and generally at the busier times you barely have time to go to the toilet - they are dealing with a a pandemic amongst other things so I totally get why they may stop for food and drink. It’s not like they can just go to maccy ds to get some food is it. Also they can’t just go home. It’s different as this is a place of work plus residence. Far too much is being made of it and why it’s plastered over every channel is beyond me.
Like I said before the Christmas parties now that’s a story worthy of the vitriol been thrown about!
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I assume though, if you do want to focus on the cheese and spectacularly miss the point, that when working on these projects you’re not in a building with full catering facilities, an entire household staff and the opportunity to order any food you want at any time?
 
FatCat said:
I’ll ask again should Tory MPs not eat?
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What a ridiculous post, you do know they have the ability to eat, drink (not alcohol) AND stay within guidelines right?

You're acting as if Tories and their staff cannot function without drinking or eating in groups while working.
 
FatCat said:
I’ll ask again should Tory MPs not eat?
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Yes they should, like the rest of us.

But they should also stick to the rules they imposed, be truthful to the people who elected them (and those who didn’t), act with the highest levels of honesty and integrity, and if they transgress then have the decency to admit “we got this wrong“.

Instead they’ve lied, lied and lied again when it is absolutely obvious they believe the rules do not apply to them. They have shown, and continue to show, absolute utter contempt towards everyone in the country.

It is utterly indefensible.
 
Chris_Boro said:
What a ridiculous post, you do know they have the ability to eat, drink (not alcohol) AND stay within guidelines right?

You're acting as if Tories and their staff cannot function without drinking or eating in groups while working.
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It’s just laughable b***ks. A desperate, desperate post.
 
Adi_Dem said:
I assume though, if you do want to focus on the cheese and spectacularly miss the point, that when working on these projects you’re not in a building with full catering facilities, an entire household staff and the opportunity to order any food you want at any time?
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So assuming they were between meetings / tasks - what would you suggest they do that would not upset you?
 
Adi_Dem said:
Act with integrity and follow the rules they imposed and which the majority of people followed. Not complicated.
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We are never going to agree that the majority of people followed the rules - primarily because I have eyes. People who keep trotting that line out are very wrong.

I think the fact they are running the country probably excuses them in this instance and we are still making the massive assumption here that people know exactly when this meeting occurred and other contextual details that without it is impossible to draw any conclusions
 
I hadn't realised that Carrie held an appointment that allowed her to sit in on government business meetings. mind you someone has to supervise her halfwit husband.
 
FatCat said:
We are never going to agree that the majority of people followed the rules - primarily because I have eyes. People who keep trotting that line out are very wrong.

I think the fact they are running the country probably excuses them in this instance and we are still making the massive assumption here that people know exactly when this meeting occurred and other contextual details that without it is impossible to draw any conclusions
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Your primary source of information as to whether the entire population of this country obeyed the guidelines are your eyes? Who are you, Sauron??
 
FatCat said:
We are never going to agree that the majority of people followed the rules - primarily because I have eyes. People who keep trotting that line out are very wrong.

I think the fact they are running the country probably excuses them in this instance and we are still making the massive assumption here that people know exactly when this meeting occurred and other contextual details that without it is impossible to draw any conclusions
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I feel sorry for you. These lying, sociopathic charlatans are openly laughing at you. Their contempt for you is palpable. Yet here you are tugging your forelock. There is no context that makes this lawful. I missed a funeral and couldn’t give my Mum a hug. These people simply ignored all of the rules because they don’t think they apply to them. And here you are tugging your forelock.

Look how far you’re prepared to go here. You’re prepared to apply any scenario to this photo you can think of to justify it and you’re throwing in the notion that the population didn’t follow the rules in for good measure. Shame on you.
 
FatCat said:
Not at all Cardiff daffs I think you have me all wrong. I work on projects and generally at the busier times you barely have time to go to the toilet - they are dealing with a a pandemic amongst other things so I totally get why they may stop for food and drink. It’s not like they can just go to maccy ds to get some food is it. Also they can’t just go home. It’s different as this is a place of work plus residence. Far too much is being made of it and why it’s plastered over every channel is beyond me.
Like I said before the Christmas parties now that’s a story worthy of the vitriol been thrown about!
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They could have had food delivered and sat apart at their desks to eat, many of us working through the pandemic had to do similar things but none of us had spouses in attendance or took the opportunity to have a few glasses of wine, not even Raab is defending it as work break but an extension of the normal working day, as much as you want to dress it up as something irrelevant and innocent, it’s at the heart of the pandemic when examples should be set by leaders, even if as you maintain there are reasonable reasons for it, the fact that there is wine and his wife makes it totally misjudged at the very very best.
 
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Adi_Dem said:
I feel sorry for you. These lying, sociopathic charlatans are openly laughing at you. Their contempt for you is palpable. Yet here you are tugging your forelock. There is no context that makes this lawful. I missed a funeral and couldn’t give my Mum a hug. These people simply ignored all of the rules because they don’t think they apply to them. And here you are tugging your forelock.

Shame on you.
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I went to an old school friends funeral at the same time Adi. There were family members who could not attend, the support for his wife and children was lagely absent. I saw first hand what that did to his 2 youngest boys, 19 and 21 who desperately wanted their family, and their dads friends around them, telling "back in the day" stories, to feel their dad meant something to people other than just them.

To be fair the road into the crem was packed with well wishers, which at least gave an indication of how much he was loved.
 
FatCat said:
We are never going to agree that the majority of people followed the rules - primarily because I have eyes. People who keep trotting that line out are very wrong.

I think the fact they are running the country probably excuses them in this instance and we are still making the massive assumption here that people know exactly when this meeting occurred and other contextual details that without it is impossible to draw any conclusions
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I find it offensive that someone could be as deliberately obtuse and provocative as this and be so resolute on defending the indefensible.
 
Laughing said:
I went to an old school friends funeral at the same time Adi. There were family members who could not attend, the support for his wife and children was lagely absent. I saw first hand what that did to his 2 youngest boys, 19 and 21 who desperately wanted their family, and their dads friends around them, telling "back in the day" stories, to feel their dad meant something to people other than just them.

To be fair the road into the crem was packed with well wishers, which at least gave an indication of how much he was loved.
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A very similar tale. I watched the funeral of one of the best people I have known on a screen. It was magnitudes worse for his wife and two kids.
 
Adi_Dem said:
I feel sorry for you. These lying, sociopathic charlatans are openly laughing at you. Their contempt for you is palpable. Yet here you are tugging your forelock. There is no context that makes this lawful. I missed a funeral and couldn’t give my Mum a hug. These people simply ignored all of the rules because they don’t think they apply to them. And here you are tugging your forelock.

Look how far you’re prepared to go here. You’re prepared to apply any scenario to this photo you can think of to justify it and you’re throwing in the notion that the population didn’t follow the rules in for good measure. Shame on you.
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Can only guess that the taste of boot must be like a fine single malt to some.
 
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