For me, It's not really about ICE versus EV - I'm just looking for a balance of the best quality, value and reliability. EVs simply can't compete at the moment, this is due to their list price and likely future problems with batteries and technology, etc - if the vehicle is kept long term. These batteries are constantly degrading and this will see a gradual reduction in range and the fact they will have to be replaced or the vehicle scrapped if it's an uneconomical repair. Currently a new battery costs anywhere between £4000 and £20,000. I'm afraid that's not for me.
People do speak of warranties, but I don't trust them due to knowing a bit about how they work. If battery performance isn't as advertised, a replacement won't be offered. There might be a 'software fix' that doesn't really solve the problem. The battery will have to pretty much fail to get anywhere with the warranty. Let's not forget, a battery is expected to degrade - that's what batteries do. I'll take proven reliability over extended warranties any day of the week.
With regards to software updates, they are already out there, but expect a lot more in the future. It will be a major profit making exercise for the manufacture. We know that anything with hardware and technology needs updates. Yes, some of the updates might be automatic and free in the early life of the vehicle. But that won't last, whether it's a new feature or some sort of improvement or fix - there'll be a significant price to pay.
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This is exactly my point, hence why I wouldn't buy one and swap my current vehicle. Prices are high and are going up dramatically.
Strange how you have such and agenda, made up completely on false assumptions, and zero experience actually owning one?
EV's have already won, but only people with experience of both (or people half decent at maths) will realise that already, but over time more will realise. A lot of it is fear, or fear of change/ technology, but technology always wins, and always makes things better. The longer you try and drag this argument out, the sillier you're making yourself look.
My EV (TCO/ total cost of ownership) is working out cheaper than an ICE car half the ticket price, but is cleary a much more capible car, and far better kitted out. A comparable ICE car is about 10% less on the ticket, but you get more than that back as the EV will hold that extra 10% cost, as it will depreciate less, costs far, far, far less to run, and has a much longer warranty on the key parts.
You don't know how a warranty works, otherwise you wouldn't say what you say. Or maybe you do know, but just try and make more crap up, to back up your non argument?
Manufacturers won't charge for software updates which help the health of the car, they are free, always have been free, and always will be free. It's not legal to force a charge/ expense on an already established system/ spec, kind of like how apple etc don't charge when they update the OS on your phone.
If there's a software update to add additional kit to the car, then they may charge for this, but it would be adding more kit to the car, and be entirely optional. I'd rather have that option, than not. Every decent car with a computer/ entertainment system/ sat nav etc which has been made in the last 10 years, has been getting regular software updates for free, whether that's ICE or EV. Either happens over the airwaves or when the car goes in for service.
Your example link is an extra cost to upgrade the spec of the car, or unlock features which were not part of the lower purchase price. If you wanted to upgrade a 2 ltr ICE to 3ltr engine, then it's going to cost more. Autopilot is an extra feature also, this is not being forced, and when it comes in, it will be a feature which some might chose, rather than having to buy a new car with that feature. See how much adding autopilot to an ICE car costs?
you used my example of somebody MAKING money from his car, as a reason not to get one? You would rather have bought a comparable ICE which lost 15% in the same timeframe? That's insane. He could have ordered the same car again for 10% less money than he sold his 1.5 year old car for, he's made a profit driving his car, and it's covered his running costs also.
Prices of all cars are high, and going up, that's what inflation does.