European Super League to be announced tonight - 9:30pm

I envisage a future for football like Boxing. A sport full of different federations and titles. A game split into the mega rich, the rich and the rest. Titles will become meaningless and the joy and passion sucked out of a game we once loved. Very sad day for football.
 
Cardiffdaffs said:
I envisage a future for football like Boxing. A sport full of different federations and titles. A game split into the mega rich, the rich and the rest. Titles will become meaningless and the joy and passion sucked out of a game we once loved. Very sad day for football.
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That won’t happen
 
all this righteous indignation about the greedy six, and a euro super league. The horse bolted long ago, the premier league is all about nothing but greed, and imbalance of wealth, its never been a fair competition. i am sorry but i have little sympathy for liverpool man utd or city fans crying about inequality tonight and the how working mans game has gone. the top six have trodden all over the rest of the league for years. With despots like Sheikh Mansour buying the league and the others spending obscene amounts of money, f uk them all let them go football is stronger than these clubs and their idiot owners. Could i enjoy football without the top six, absolutely probably more.
 
zorro_mfc said:
That won’t happen
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I hope it won’t happen but people said many things about the “untouchable game” and my only expectation now is the unexpected. We have allowed foreign ownership to seep into the game and this is the inevitable extension of it.
 
Throw them all out of the Champions League now and throw them out of the Prem at the end of the season.
The game is bigger than these clubs although governance does need an overhaul.
 
Randy said:
Why are they having to rely on grants?
The club I follow have spied for grants in the last from the lottery and the football foundation for pitch improvements and stadia improvements, turned down both times
So raised the money themselves and with the help of a strong team of volunteers have made those improvements?
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I cant speak for every non league club but over 60,000 grants worth over £800m haven been given out over the years by the Football Foundation to non league clubs. I would imagine most if not all clubs at that level have a hardy bunch of volunteers raising money, but especialyl in this current climate theres only so much you can raise. They money handed down the pyramid, whether you disagree with how its shared out, is massive for grassroots clubs.
 
I was disappointed with Klopp's interview. He seemed to skirt around the issue. That was his chance to come out an unequivocally condemn the competition and whilst he said he wasn't in favour, he left the door wide open and changed the angle of attack on those attacking Liverpool. That was poor.
 
Humpty said:
I was disappointed with Klopp's interview. He seemed to skirt around the issue. That was his chance to come out an unequivocally condemn the competition and whilst he said he wasn't in favour, he left the door wide open and changed the angle of attack on those attacking Liverpool. That was poor.
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I could understand his point in that its not the players or managers decision, and its them who were getting the stick. He has to realise like it or not they are the public face of the club, so thats bound to happen.
 
BiggEggo said:
Throw them all out of the Champions League now and throw them out of the Prem at the end of the season.
The game is bigger than these clubs although governance does need an overhaul.
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We shouldn't throw them out of the english league structure for 2 reasons a) as soon as we push them out, we no longer have any ability to influence them in the future, b) we believe in sporting meritocracy, they should have a route, after any punishment to come back into the system, if they play fairly.

Relegate them, at the end of this season for rule breaking. Put them in the championship with no parachute payments. This will cost them 150mill revenue immediately. The parachute payments should be shared amongst the other championship teams. Even though they will be furious, the option of playing to the same rules as everyone else and getting promoted will still exist. If they chose to walk away, it will be their choice and will they choose to turn down the option of 150mill?

If they plough ahead with the super league, then at the end of next season when 3 are promoted and 3 fail to get promoted. You give them all a second relegation. 3 will remain in the championship, and 3 will be relegated to League One. Just keep doing this every year until they cancel the super league.

Also, make sure that the FFP rules are clear, no money made from super league will be factored into FFP calculations, it's an illegitimate source of income. Confirm that FFP will immediately apply to any team relegated by punishment for external competitions, it will not need a 3 year window. So Man City with their 500mill costs, will lose 200mill+ over the year maybe more. That will mean a FFP fine of another 170mill+. Effectively their money made from the super league will end up being due in fines for failed FFP in the championship, and will help fund the rest of us.

Ultimately they will be left with 2 choices. 1 - walk away from the league pyramid and be sued for any remaining fines. Lose out on 150mill/year on prem money and be hated by everyone and know that should super league fail, their only way back into the football pyramid is from the bottom. 2 - fall in line to the existing rules, take their punishment and work their way back up.
 
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shaun71 said:
I could understand his point in that its not the players or managers decision, and its them who were getting the stick. He has to realise like it or not they are the public face of the club, so thats bound to happen.
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Klopp should bluntly blame the owners, in a manner similar to what Milner did, no ambiguity, no defence of the owners as good people, this isn't about him, or his players. However they all, including Klopp face that decision, strongly and unanimously state they are on the side of fans and sporting integrity or be wooly and ambiguous which is effectively a tacit support of the owners right to make whatever decisions they want. It's not fair that he has to make that choice. But it isn't fair that every British football fan is facing our game being shredded for the Liverpool owners personal profit. So be strong Klopp, be braver, and show your loyalty is to the game and the fans, not the owners. Because quite frankly your argument that the owners are good and reasonable people was very very poor.
 
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jonny_greenings_sock said:
Oliver Holt
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Hearing the first cracks may be beginning to appear in the ugly, misshapen edifice of the ESL. Told two English clubs are close to losing their nerve.

- It's probably not Arsenal and Spurs, is it
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Probably Man City and Chelsea. Man City waivered at joining to start with, Chelsea, would you want to bring the old Chelsea hoolies back out of retirement? Abramovich loves spending time in London, he spends a lot of time here, that's not going to be possible if he is openly vilified by 15million football fans.
 
BiggEggo said:
Throw them all out of the Champions League now and throw them out of the Prem at the end of the season.
The game is bigger than these clubs although governance does need an overhaul.
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I think the threat of immediate CL expulsion would mean City back out straight away, such is their desire to win the CL.
 
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