European Super League to be announced tonight - 9:30pm

Even if this falls apart, they can't be allowed to walk away unpunished or it will come back again, or be used as a bargaining tool. These clubs have already broken the rules and MUST be punished.
 
City, and either Liverpool or Chelsea would be my guess.

For all their irredeemable qualities - and christ there are many - they'd be the clubs with ownerships and enough football people in the structure that I'd pick to realise what a destructive farce this is.

Doubt it's United finding a moral backbone, the Glazers are beyond redemption. FSG at Liverpool at least understand sport and bought the club with real money, unlike the Glazers.
 
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BoroMart said:
We shouldn't throw them out of the english league structure for 2 reasons a) as soon as we push them out, we no longer have any ability to influence them in the future, b) we believe in sporting meritocracy, they should have a route, after any punishment to come back into the system, if they play fairly.

Relegate them, at the end of this season for rule breaking. Put them in the championship with no parachute payments. This will cost them 150mill revenue immediately. The parachute payments should be shared amongst the other championship teams. Even though they will be furious, the option of playing to the same rules as everyone else and getting promoted will still exist. If they chose to walk away, it will be their choice and will they choose to turn down the option of 150mill?

If they plough ahead with the super league, then at the end of next season when 3 are promoted and 3 fail to get promoted. You give them all a second relegation. 3 will remain in the championship, and 3 will be relegated to League One. Just keep doing this every year until they cancel the super league.

Also, make sure that the FFP rules are clear, no money made from super league will be factored into FFP calculations, it's an illegitimate source of income. Confirm that FFP will immediately apply to any team relegated by punishment for external competitions, it will not need a 3 year window. So Man City with their 500mill costs, will lose 200mill+ over the year maybe more. That will mean a FFP fine of another 170mill+. Effectively their money made from the super league will end up being due in fines for failed FFP in the championship, and will help fund the rest of us.

Ultimately they will be left with 2 choices. 1 - walk away from the league pyramid and be sued for any remaining fines. Lose out on 150mill/year on prem money and be hated by everyone and know that should super league fail, their only way back into the football pyramid is from the bottom. 2 - fall in line to the existing rules, take their punishment and work their way back up.
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That's a huge legal mine field. I think it's a great idea and quite creative but an expensive legal team would quite easily be able to pull it all apart.
 
Humpty said:
That's a huge legal mine field. I think it's a great idea and quite creative but an expensive legal team would quite easily be able to pull it all apart.
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interesting, under what guise? The rules are clear and they've broken it, teams have been relegated for breaking rules in the past from multiple leagues. FFP already exists ensuring their is no loophole of illegal competitions is all that is needed and would be easy to do, if not already covered.

Whatever the punishment these owners will fight it, we have to get used to that concept.
 
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www.uefa.com

UEFA Congress | Inside UEFA

The UEFA Congress is the annual gathering of European football associations' elected presidents, their general secretaries and other senior leaders in the continental game.
www.uefa.com www.uefa.com

UEFA currently discussing it now.

Infantino 'I will be very clear. FIFA, we do not approve the creation of a Super League. We have no doubts'
 
Marvanelli said:
www.uefa.com

UEFA Congress | Inside UEFA

The UEFA Congress is the annual gathering of European football associations' elected presidents, their general secretaries and other senior leaders in the continental game.
www.uefa.com www.uefa.com

UEFA currently discussing it now.

Infantino 'I will be very clear. FIFA, we do not approve the creation of a Super League. We have no doubts'
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Yep watching it myself

Touching 1 minute silence there and also good to see FIFA speaking at the congress
 
TeaCider said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1384429574914813955

Sigh, our club continues to cozy up to the big lads in hope of scraps.
No comment from the club, and the manager either hasn't got a clue or has been told not to say anything.
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What a cop out.

Expected a lot more from Warnock on this topic.

Of everyone at 'Boro, Warnock was the top of the list I would've expected to shout the loudest.

Very disappointing I must say.
 
BoroMart said:
interesting, under what guise? The rules are clear and they've broken it, teams have been relegated for breaking rules in the past from multiple leagues. FFP already exists ensuring their is no loophole of illegal competitions is all that is needed and would be easy to do, if not already covered.

Whatever the punishment these owners will fight it, we have to get used to that concept.
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I think we've seen that FFP can be negotiated via numerous loop holes and creative accounting practices. There are a lot of ifs and buts and i doubt very much that they're all water tight. I don't want to allow these clubs any room to maneuver or weasel out of sanctions. There needs to be a simple solution in my view.
 
TeaCider said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1384429574914813955

Sigh, our club continues to cozy up to the big lads in hope of scraps.
No comment from the club, and the manager either hasn't got a clue or has been told not to say anything.
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b***ks he hasn't. It's been on every newspaper, on every TV channel and the players will definitely have been speaking about it.

We'll see what happens today after the meeting between the remaining 14 premier league clubs.
 
Randy said:
b***ks he hasn't. It's been on every newspaper, on every TV channel and the players will definitely have been speaking about it.

We'll see what happens today after the meeting between the remaining 14 premier league clubs.
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Exactly.

It's the first time I've been really disappointed in Warnock for off the field matters.
I'm less surprised by Gibson after his baffling support for the blackmail attempt that was Project Big Picture.
 
TeaCider said:
Exactly.

It's the first time I've been really disappointed in Warnock for off the field matters.
I'm less surprised by Gibson after his baffling support for the blackmail attempt that was Project Big Picture.
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Warnock just being careful in keeping his options open in case he's offered the Spurs manager job.
 
Chelsea rumoured to be holding crisis talks with a view to pulling out of the Super League.

Wouldn't shock me if City pull out not long after neither.
 
Marvanelli said:
Chelsea rumoured to be holding crisis talks with a view to pulling out of the Super League.

Wouldn't shock me if City pull out not long after neither.
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Too late , I would say, you can’t just sign up, then gauge the mood, the damage is already done, purely by intent, severe sanctions if they pull out.
 
Banner by Borussia Dortmund ultras group, The Unity, in front of the Westfalenstadion.

“Clear words instead of empty sentences—no to the super league now and forever.”

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