Disabled supporters assistants made to use black season card

[Perfecthatrick]

Can you share a picture with your details obscured?

I can, I have realised that's it my name but it's my personal assistant's card. It confused me because me and my wife have had a normal looking season card with her name (as the assistant) and my name on mine. Now it's my normal red card, and her black card with my name on it. The whole thing has got me really annoyed, and the fact that it said my name I thought that the club were giving out wrong info on what it actually is. Same difference though, there really is a discrimination issue with all of this. A lot of comments about how it's not a great issue. It is to me, I don't want people to have to know about a disability. I am quite open to tell people about it when its necessaryfor saftey, but its heartbreaking having to admit it. I certainly don't want anyone who is around me seeing the black card and knowing that person is there to 'look after me'

 

[Perfecthatrick]

I don’t think our inclusivity coordinator understands what inclusivity means..maybe we just cut and paste our policies to make it look like we’re joining in.

It's like they printed out their award themselves, or the award was given from a pool of best football clubs who play at the Riverside stadium

 

[newyddion]

It's like they printed out their award themselves, or the award was given from a pool of best football clubs who play at the Riverside stadium

well meaning.. but clueless.

good intentions don’t always result in good outcomes.

 

[Winston Smith]

I can, I have realised that's it my name but it's my personal assistant's card. It confused me because me and my wife have had a normal looking season card with her name (as the assistant) and my name on mine. Now it's my normal red card, and her black card with my name on it. The whole thing has got me really annoyed, and the fact that it said my name I thought that the club were giving out wrong info on what it actually is. Same difference though, there really is a discrimination issue with all of this. A lot of comments about how it's not a great issue. It is to me, I don't want people to have to know about a disability. I am quite open to tell people about it when its necessaryfor saftey, but its heartbreaking having to admit it. I certainly don't want anyone who is around me seeing the black card and knowing that person is there to 'look after me'

I feel for you mate, those that say it’s a nonissue really can’t fathom the stress and anxiety matters like this cause.

It’s completely unnecessary too which only adds to the insult.

 

[Block_4_Eastender]

I can, I have realised that's it my name but it's my personal assistant's card. It confused me because me and my wife have had a normal looking season card with her name (as the assistant) and my name on mine. Now it's my normal red card, and her black card with my name on it. The whole thing has got me really annoyed, and the fact that it said my name I thought that the club were giving out wrong info on what it actually is. Same difference though, there really is a discrimination issue with all of this. A lot of comments about how it's not a great issue. It is to me, I don't want people to have to know about a disability. I am quite open to tell people about it when its necessaryfor saftey, but its heartbreaking having to admit it. I certainly don't want anyone who is around me seeing the black card and knowing that person is there to 'look after me'

This is exactly how my friend feels and that's why I raised the issue here.

 

[Rofesleg]

This is exactly how my friend feels and that's why I raised the issue here.

Genuine question - if they have one, how does your friend feel about displaying a blue badge and parking in designated bays? I can't see a way around that but my son recently got his badge and is quite anxious in case his friends/colleagues see him using it.

In an ideal world there should be no embarrassment or stigma associated with being identified as 'disabled'.
I think he is more concerned that people are too embarrassed, or maybe polite, to ask him about it and so will start speculating. Or even assume he is 'at it' and is playing the system. He would rather they knew nothing or knew everything I suppose.

 

[JackG]

John Terry never seemed embarrassed about using designated disabled bays.

 

[Norman_Conquest]

Genuine question - if they have one, how does your friend feel about displaying a blue badge and parking in designated bays? I can't see a way around that but my son recently got his badge and is quite anxious in case his friends/colleagues see him using it.

In an ideal world there should be no embarrassment or stigma associated with being identified as 'disabled'.
I think he is more concerned that people are too embarrassed, or maybe polite, to ask him about it and so will start speculating. Or even assume he is 'at it' and is playing the system. He would rather they knew nothing or knew everything I suppose.

I gave up my blue badge due to being questioned about my disability. The turning point was when I had to cut a day out short and return back to the car with my wife and two sons. A woman was sitting near our car eating an ice cream and turned to her husband and said "he's not disabled, he doesn't need a blue badge." I had iterally limped around for an hour and could have cried with the pain I was in. I jumped out of the car showed her my picture on the blue badge and then lifted my top up to show her the scars from my back operations.

Not all disabilities are visible and due to people not believing I had a disability, I never used the badge again after that.

 

[Rofesleg]

I gave up my blue badge due to being questioned about my disability. The turning point was when I had to cut a day out short and return back to the car with my wife and two sons. A woman was sitting near our car eating an ice cream and turned to her husband and said "he's not disabled, he doesn't need a blue badge." I had iterally limped around for an hour and could have cried with the pain I was in. I jumped out of the car showed her my picture on the blue badge and then lifted my top up to show her the scars from my back operations.

Not all disabilities are visible and due to people not believing I had a disability, I never used the badge again after that.

I think that's his biggest worry. That people, particularly those who know him, will think he's parking illegally. And likely not say anything but then talk about it behind his back.
He would actually prefer people confronted him so he could explain. Though I can understand that would get tiresome after a while. Maybe people with less obvious disabilities should be given a special blue hat to wear.

 

[Emmersons_BrazillianDong]

There's a few people on here who would do well to listen to the experiences of those who are affected by a disability and the impact it has on them.

It's very humbling indeed

 

[Teesste]

Register For Disabled Supporters Conversation Event

Meeting at the Riverside...

www.mfc.co.uk

In case it hasn't already been mentioned, this may be a worthwhile event for those who have been impacted by this and to raise any other issues they may have.

 

[Archiestephens_elbow]

There's a few people on here who would do well to listen to the experiences of those who are affected by a disability and the impact it has on them.

It's very humbling indeed

Exactly

 

[Block_4_Eastender]

Genuine question - if they have one, how does your friend feel about displaying a blue badge and parking in designated bays? I can't see a way around that but my son recently got his badge and is quite anxious in case his friends/colleagues see him using it.

In an ideal world there should be no embarrassment or stigma associated with being identified as 'disabled'.
I think he is more concerned that people are too embarrassed, or maybe polite, to ask him about it and so will start speculating. Or even assume he is 'at it' and is playing the system. He would rather they knew nothing or knew everything I suppose.

He hasn't even bothered to get himself one.

 

[ThatFragranceGuy]

I gave up my blue badge due to being questioned about my disability. The turning point was when I had to cut a day out short and return back to the car with my wife and two sons. A woman was sitting near our car eating an ice cream and turned to her husband and said "he's not disabled, he doesn't need a blue badge." I had iterally limped around for an hour and could have cried with the pain I was in. I jumped out of the car showed her my picture on the blue badge and then lifted my top up to show her the scars from my back operations.

Not all disabilities are visible and due to people not believing I had a disability, I never used the badge again after that.

There is a bloke on TikTok who has a blue badge and a white van. He films all the people asking him to move and trying to take photos of his van etc as they think he is using a fake badge

Big Karen n Kevs on TikTok

Again, I can't sit and fill my tablet in without this crap I'm sick of this!! SHE PASSED 4 CARS WITH PEOPLE IN THEM TO COME TO ME!! #PleaseStop #fyp #fypシ #bluebadge #disabled #DontJudge #DontJudge #Scotland #airdrie

vm.tiktok.com

 

[WillowsOrchid]

I’m disabled and get the free P.A disabled season card on my phone now. It is now black like it’s been stated on here.
I personally couldn’t care less what colour it is

 

[FatFrank]

It's a general problem with the game, isn't it? There's a letter in the latest When Saturday Comes from a guy who tried to attend our League Cup match at Huddersfield earlier in the season with his brother. They rolled up at the ticket office and were denied a ticket because they weren't from the area and the Boro end was sold out. They are both in their 70s and just fancied watching a game of football. There's another letter in this week's Non-League Paper about away fans only being able to buy tickets on line and in advance if they want to go to a game at Banbury. Which is Level Six in the pyramid. And I myself failed to get a ticket for Harrogate Town's game on Boxing Day last as I wasn't able to go through the relevant hoops to show I wasn't a Grimsby Town supporter ffs. It's ludicrous.

I had exactly the same issue last year when in Birmingham for 2 days with work. Thought I would treat myself to a game of football and Wolves were playing Preston at Molyneux. Went down to the ticket office at 3.30pm and attempted to buy one - gave my TS postcode but explained I was away with work and wanted to watch the game. I was refused based on the safety of home supporters with no history of buying Wolverhampton tickets previously. I dare say it was far from a sell-out and I even picked one of the higher-end tickets. Ridiculous.

 

[Loop]

First world problems.

 

[sherlock]

First world problems.

Please explain how discrimination against disabled people is a 'first world problem'.

 

[Will_Graham]

Please explain how discrimination against disabled people is a 'first world problem'.

Maybe they were replying to the away fans ticket post?

Although I'm not convinced the different coloured ticket is definitely discrimination. The question has been raised on here but there are different opinions about it.
I suppose the only really valid opinions would be from disabled people. Otherwise we are maybe guilty of trying to solve problems on their behalf that don't actually exist.

In fact it would be a crying shame if anyone was embarrassed about their disability. That to me is the bigger problem, not the colour of the ticket.

Most physical disabilities aren't easily 'hidden' and shouldnt cause embarrassment. Why should less obvious disabilities?

The fact someone is or isn't disabled or with a disabled person shouldn't matter one bit. Other than to take into account any extra help they may need.

I don't have a season ticket but do have a condition which allows me free bus travel. I have to use a card which allows me, plus one other free travel. It is quite obvious what it is if anyone is looking, but so what?

 

[B_G]

Maybe they were replying to the away fans ticket post?

Although I'm not convinced the different coloured ticket is definitely discrimination. The question has been raised on here but there are different opinions about it.
I suppose the only really valid opinions would be from disabled people. Otherwise we are maybe guilty of trying to solve problems on their behalf that don't actually exist.

In fact it would be a crying shame if anyone was embarrassed about their disability. That to me is the bigger problem, not the colour of the ticket.

Most physical disabilities aren't easily 'hidden' and shouldnt cause embarrassment. Why should less obvious disabilities?

The fact someone is or isn't disabled or with a disabled person shouldn't matter one bit. Other than to take into account any extra help they may need.

I don't have a season ticket but do have a condition which allows me free bus travel. I have to use a card which allows me, plus one other free travel. It is quite obvious what it is if anyone is looking, but so what?

But there are disabled supporters who have posted on this thread that have explained why this does make them feel uncomfortable and are not happy about it.