I think I must be missing your point with this comparison Rob.
it's largely about the oppression of black people. It's called BLM the clue is in the name
the root causes of that oppression affect us all
Fair enough. Though I don't think you needed to explain how bad racism is by downplaying other types of abuse.
If you mean exploitation by the elites then yes it does....but some of us historically and currently feel the effects more than others. That's just the basics of UK/western socio-economics
Yes and where the all lives matter stuff comes from folks that feel like they are experiencing the same exploitation. The sad thing is that this is picked up by folks that want to use it to exploit them further.
There seems to be a retreat from taking the knee across football but hopefully there will be an increase in action, whether it be through education, youth projects or publicly backing anti racism initiatives.
the all lives matter stuff is nonsense, devised by right ping PR firms to undermine the empathy behind the BLM concept
Unfortunately we can’t just close our eyes, bury our heads in the ground and wish for it to go away by calling folks idiots and racists.
How about renaming The Riverside to the ‘The Lindy Delapenha Stadium’?QPR stopped taking the knee before us. Les Ferdinand went on tv to explain as I recall. QPR are very much direct action v racism. The renaming of the stadium for 2 years was a very public manifestation of the importance they place on work in a neighbourhood with big issues of racism, poverty and knife crime etc.
Boro Fans Forum working with Boro and Middlesbrough Council are starting some initiatives with MFC Foundation this week in inner Middlesbrough and Teesside.
The #MyBoroMyShirt campaign is seeking to give a new identity to the face of Boro fans. Initially we want as many faces as possibly to join the gallery we then intend to use images of Boro fans in shirts for public art in Teesside and the Boro and an exhibition that will tour around. This exhibition and the public art is aimed at making everyone feel part of and proud of wearing the shirt wherever they are from, whatever age, background etc.
We need more selfies, we need more people getting in touch from all over the world.
Nexf year we will embark on some major displays of the faces of Boro.
MY BORO, MY SHIRT TO COLLECT STORIES OF DIVERSE FANBASE
In defeat or victory, come rain or shine, we all love the Boro. And now a new art project aims to show how the colours of Middlesbrough FC provide a unifying force for people. The My Boro, My Shirt project will tell the diverse stories of the...fmttmboro.com
That was me and no I wasn't telling you that talking about an undercurrent of racism was akin to yaxley Lennon denigrating all Muslims. I'm sure you know that. You were lumping people who take issue with Southgate in with racists. It is stereotyping. That is what I object to. That is why your post got an angry response from another message board user.
Nope I said that Southgate lost a lot of fans when he was a strong supporter of taking the knee. I was lumping people who don't want to support anti-racism in with racists. That might be stereotyping in your book, it's calling a spade a spade in mine.
a strong support of taking the knee.. but refused to take his players off the pitch against Hungary. He left the decision up to the players.
Is everyone who is called a racist actually racist?
someone angered, offended.. no one educated, no one enlightened. job done?
A spade a spade
The idiom originates in the classical Greek of Plutarch's Apophthegmata Laconica, and was introduced into the English language in 1542 in Nicolas Udall's translation of the Apophthegmes, where Erasmus had seemingly replaced Plutarch's images of "trough" and "fig" with the more familiar "spade". It has appeared in many literary and popular works, including those of Oscar Wilde, Charles Dickens, Ralph Waldo Emerson, W. Somerset Maugham, and Jonathan Swift.A spade a spade
It was certain players who were impacted by it, so he gave them the choice.
No, but that isn't what I said. Everyone who is a racist should be called out as one, which is kind the opposite to what you claimed I said
You can't educated entrenched racists
Sorry, Newy I don't understand your point. Are you saying that we shouldn't call racists racist? Idiots shouldn't be labelled idiots?
I think he's saying calling them idiots and racists isn't going to solve the problem. Most of them are idiots and racists, but surely the aim is to eradicate racism not insult people however true it is?
It's all a bit of a moot point though on this thread, because we are discussing racism in the game. Unless anyone wants to out themselves as a racist, then we're not calling anyone a racist to their face, we are having a debate not trying to eradicate it from board members through shaming them.