Burnley @ home tickets

Norfolkred1 said:
Really thought being Good Friday and a top of the table game would attract a lot more.
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I just don't think total sell-outs in the Championship are common.

We sold out once in our last promotion season and that was against Brighton where the result would decide if we were promoted.

The match against Burnley might confirm promotion for them, but unless Sheffield United drop points to both Norwich and Wigan and we beat Huddersfield, a win for us next Friday is likely just us keeping pace at best.

I still expect it to to be comfortably our third highest attendance of the season after Sunderland and Boxing Day.
 
Abel Tasman said:
Yes have been reading a thread on their Board which has them all kicking off about loyalty points re the Blackburn game. Apparently they have only been given 2000 tickets for probably the game everybody wants to go to. Everybody over a certain level of points were put into a ballot for the tickets - apparently about 5000 fans with the required points ( mostly as Zoo says above - those who have had Season Tickets for ever) and 3,000 missed out. The "Rob Nichols' of their Board the fanzine editor "Claret Tony" who only missed a game through covid in the last 20 years hasn't got one and he is distraught and written an article in which he says " The Club should hang their heads in shame" arguing the supporters with the most points should have been given the tickets. A fierce debate has ensued which is worth a read for the different viewpoints and highlights that you can never have a system that would please everyone.

ARTICLE: Clubs should hang their heads in shame over derby tickets -

www.uptheclarets.com www.uptheclarets.com
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It’s an interesting article and shows there’s no perfect way. Burnley’s main problem seems to be that points last for ever so the old brigade gets far more than just the extra 20 points our stalwarts from the 90s get (and even that has its critics here).

But also it’s about the increasing trend to reduce away allocations to around the EFL minimum, at least for higher profile games, even if it leaves seats empty. Blackburn have obviously done it. But it seems we have as well if I’ve read the 2118 right, which is less than that block holds. And Sunderland did to us of course. It’s obviously the way the game is going. There will be more of this angst not less going forward.
 
FishofContemplation said:
It’s an interesting article and shows there’s no perfect way. Burnley’s main problem seems to be that points last for ever so the old brigade gets far more than just the extra 20 points our stalwarts from the 90s get (and even that has its critics here).

But also it’s about the increasing trend to reduce away allocations to around the EFL minimum, at least for higher profile games, even if it leaves seats empty. Blackburn have obviously done it. But it seems we have as well if I’ve read the 2118 right, which is less than that block holds. And Sunderland did to us of course. It’s obviously the way the game is going. There will be more of this angst not less going forward.
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At least if we get to the prem the options are better. Most grounds exceed 30k and have to give 3k.
Forest had to increase their away offering from 2k to 3k when they got promoted.
 
NorthumberlandBoro said:
How did you arrive at the 28k number,out of interest?
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A simple algorithm to count the unsold home seats up until the option to purchase online is removed on match day.

The calculation is based on the total number of seating blocks available to home fans. Including reduced segregation in blocks 42, 43, 54 and 55.

For example - 2584 home tickets were unsold against PNE, with a total attendance of 28,304 (1,665 visitors).

3126 tickets are available for Burnley, who have sold their full allocation of 2,118.

That's 542 fewer home tickets currently sold for Burnley than the PNE match, but the Clarets travelling support will be larger than PNE's by 453.

By that current estimate, ticket sales should now have exceeded 28,000.
 
northriding said:
A simple algorithm to count the unsold home seats up until the option to purchase online is removed on match day.

The calculation is based on the total number of seating blocks available to home fans. Including reduced segregation in blocks 42, 43, 54 and 55.

For example - 2584 home tickets were unsold against PNE, with a total attendance of 28,304 (1,665 visitors).

3126 tickets are available for Burnley, who have sold their full allocation of 2,118.

That's 542 fewer home tickets currently sold for Burnley than the PNE match, but the Clarets travelling support will be larger than PNE's by 453.


By that current estimate, ticket sales should now have exceeded 28,000.
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I like the logic.👍
A bit disappointing that we can still only accommodate little more than 31k in the stadium, despite efforts by the club to reduce segregation.
 
NorthumberlandBoro said:
I like the logic.👍
A bit disappointing that we can still only accommodate little more than 31k in the stadium, despite efforts by the club to reduce segregation.
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I'm fairly sure the stadium was reconfigured for the minimum 3,000 tickets for visitors in the Prem. Attendances could max out at roughly 32,800 in that configuration.

Barring Sunderland, barely any other side in this division would bring close to that amount here on any given day, so I doubt there is any business case to make any more expensive alterations for the small bands of visitors we usually get in this league.

I've seen the current safety certificate for the stadium, and it still has a capacity of 33,981 seated.
 
'I've seen the current safety certificate for the stadium, and it still has a capacity of 33,981 seated.'
Wow, that leaves an awful lot of empty seats for our 'sellout' games, e.g. just over 31k for Spurs last season (whatever the reason).
 
The stadium certificate which confirmed the 33,981 capacity for the 2021/2022 season when we just nudged over 31k for Spurs is available to view online. It was reissued this season with the same capacity.
 

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NorthumberlandBoro said:
I like the logic.👍
A bit disappointing that we can still only accommodate little more than 31k in the stadium, despite efforts by the club to reduce segregation.
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Right now we're averaging 26 - 27k-ish for home games, so a 31k (or whatever the exact figure is) capacity isn't an issue. However, if we carry on playing as we are and get promoted, it could generate something close to the fever of the early Robson Premier League seasons and, like then, generate a near season ticket sell out. Walk up ticket availability would then become the issue. Then this board will go into meltdown when Newcastle, Man City, Man Utd etc are coming to town (probably not so much so when it's Bournemouth, Crystal Palace, Fulham etc ! )

Incidentally, it was mentioned on the twe12th man podcast this week that our average home attendance this season is our 2nd highest ever for a 2nd tier season (the only one to beat it being the Paul Merson promotion season). If that's correct, then that is some testament to the pulling power of what Carrick has achieved over the last 5 months.
 
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northriding said:
The stadium certificate which confirmed the 33,981 capacity for the 2021/2022 season when we just nudged over 31k for Spurs is available to view online. It was reissued this season with the same capacity.
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Very interesting.
So we only lost about 1000 seats following the various reconfigurations( big screen/TCL. Studio, new TV gantry, new disabled section in the away corner).
The remaining loss of 2846 (33981- 31135) is down to segregation (using the spurs game as the example).
 
feedthebear said:
Right now we're averaging 26 - 27k-ish for home games, so a 31k (or whatever the exact figure is) capacity isn't an issue. However, if we carry on playing as we are and get promoted, it could generate something close to the fever of the early Robson Premier League seasons and, like then, generate a near season ticket sell out. Walk up ticket availability would then become the issue. The sh*t really will then hit the fan on here when Newcastle, Man City, Man Utd etc are coming to town (probably not so much so when it's Bournemouth, Crystal Palace, Fulham etc ! )

Incidentally, it was mentioned on the twe12th man podcast this week that our average home attendance this season is our 2nd highest ever for a 2nd tier season (the only one to beat it being the Paul Merson promotion season). If that's correct, then that is some testament to the pulling power of what Carrick has achieved over the last 5 months.
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Yes, I was very much thinking ahead to a premiership return.
 
There are still just over 3,000 unsold home seats available for the Burnley game.

Since the Spurs game more seats have been released and there is less segregation in the East Stand - possibly 2 blocks.

My guess is the new ticket sold capacity is more like 31,700, with only 2,200 for away fans (league games)

Crowds were going up last season under Wilder its not just under Carrick. The beginning of this season we must have had around 18,500 season ticket holders.
 
FishofContemplation said:
It’s an interesting article and shows there’s no perfect way. Burnley’s main problem seems to be that points last for ever so the old brigade gets far more than just the extra 20 points our stalwarts from the 90s get (and even that has its critics here).

But also it’s about the increasing trend to reduce away allocations to around the EFL minimum, at least for higher profile games, even if it leaves seats empty. Blackburn have obviously done it. But it seems we have as well if I’ve read the 2118 right, which is less than that block holds. And Sunderland did to us of course. It’s obviously the way the game is going. There will be more of this angst not less going forward.
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The real angst about the Blackburn game is that the rest of the away stand, which holds 8,000,is going to be left empty. The reason behind restricting the away support is purely and simply because they don't want Burnley fans to see the match. It isn't about wanting a small away following for football reasons, because they gave Norwich 4,000 tickets.

Middlesbrough v Burnley is different because you at least can hope to sell the rest of the tickets.
 
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