Brexit - deal or no deal?

WindyNook said:
There is 100% certainty that there will be a deal. When is the question we should be asking. It looks increasingly unlikely that it will happen before Dec 31, but the EU is famous for "going to the wire".
Talks will not cease after that and it could be we have a deal sometime in 2021
Dual party Brexit deal and Covid victory we really are the BEST country 😂
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So, for a process that has been running for 3 years, has a deadline for the end of transition in 23 days but you think a deal is 100% certain?
And what kind of deal would that be? We still dont even know what it might contain.
May I point out that these negotiations are not to loan a footballer - they are between the EU block and the UK to resolve over 40 years of political agreements & treaties. I wish I could share your optimism, I really do. :)
 
Same_as_before said:
I never had an issue one way or the other on Brexit.

What really got to me was the idea the result should be ignored.
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Look, same as before ; when you say result. thats fine. This was sold as the easiest trade deal in history. Thats the issue. What won the day was built on lies. If they had said, we are in for a right old tussle with the EU for a decent trade deal (which they knew was the case but they lied) and could be a no-deal brexit I'd have no issue.
 
Ex Footy Legs said:
Look, same as before ; when you say result. thats fine. This was sold as the easiest trade deal in history. Thats the issue. What won the day was built on lies. If they had said, we are in for a right old tussle with the EU for a decent trade deal (which they knew was the case but they lied) and could be a no-deal brexit I'd have no issue.
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Agrees and let’s be clear -
At the risk of going over old ground on the referendum it is worth reminding everyone that those who voted for Brexit voted for a deal.
The ‘out’ conversation was always about ‘with a deal’
 
Pro remain at the referendum (only told the truth)
the government
The labour party
The liberal party
Plaid Cymru
SDP
Trade Union Congress
BBC & ITV
The Mirror
The Guardian
Spend according to the Electoral Commission £19.3 m

Against ( all liars)
DUP
The Mail
the express
Brexit party
sky ( not sure about that )
Spend according to the Electoral Commission £13.3m

The remainers are telling the truth it was bent
 
Which do you disagree with? I checked them all.

The BBC I will give an inch, if you think they were unbiased that's fair enough.
 
WindyNook said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Brexit: UK and EU reach deal on Northern Ireland border checks

The agreement in principle means controversial clauses in the Internal Market Bill will be withdrawn.
www.bbc.co.uk

There will be no border between Britain and Northern Ireland
Oh hang on I don't need your votes anymore. Please step under this bus.
Fishermen next!
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This was always going to happen one way or another, expedited by the Biden win over the pond. Left in it would have meant no deal with either the US or EU. US have said there won't be any trade deal with anybody until they get their own affairs sorted after Trump, if those clauses hadn't been removed there wouldn't have been one at all. It's called taking back control I think, but best ask a Brexiteer about that.
 
FartingGnome said:
This was always going to happen one way or another, expedited by the Biden win over the pond. Left in it would have meant no deal with either the US or EU. US have said there won't be any trade deal with anybody until they get their own affairs sorted after Trump, if those clauses hadn't been removed there wouldn't have been one at all. It's called taking back control I think, but best ask a Brexiteer about that.
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It's realising that you can't take back control and expect to have relationships with other countries.
 
Same_as_before said:
Which do you disagree with? I checked them all.

The BBC I will give an inch, if you think they were unbiased that's fair enough.
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You are misrepresenting the Remainers case and issues, as you well know, in order to make it easier to contest them and at the same time present your own position as more reasonable.
 
Lefty said:
You are misrepresenting the Remainers case and issues, as you well know, in order to make it easier to contest them and at the same time present your own position as more reasonable.
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No I am getting rid of the myth that it was an unfair referendum, all the cards were with the establishment.

Being brought up a left wing Catholic I was taught never to trust the establishment.
 
Anybody not trusting the establishment must be dismayed that it has fallen to Boris Johnson to personally do the final negotiation.

What an unfolding mess it is.
 
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