Arrogant and clueless drivers - more about than ever?

newusername said:
I do it even if we are the only two vehicles on the road. I'd have to 'weave' across two lanes to overtake & then 'weave' back to get to the inside, or I could just stay in my lane as traffic in my lane is moving faster than traffic in their lane, as per HWC rule 268.

HWC Rule 268
... traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. ... you may keep ... in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.
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Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with undertaking middle lane hogs. I do it myself. I have problems with them in the first place. You're explaining your solution to a problem that shouldn't exist.
 
SmallTown said:
You're explaining your solution to a problem that shouldn't exist.
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Because the earlier poster wrote:
S7DiscoDown said:
So I'm sat at 70 in the first lane and a car is going 60 in the middle. I have to go all the way round to slot back into the first lane. I swear today I could have under taken over a hundred cars driving to Barnet.
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Middle lane roadhogs are an intractable problem, the solution is to effectively ignore them.
 
Teesside_Steel said:
There’s been a lot of what the wife and I call “40 everywhere” drivers around lately. The ones who can only do 40mph, whether the speed limit be 30 or 60 🙄
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This is a big issue around us as we live in a village in the countryside. Loads of cars going 40mph on the 60 mph roads but then they just keep going through the village at 40 mph. Really unnecessarily cautious but then happy to fly through where kids and old people are crossing. I can't get my head around it. I think they just have no idea what;'s going on.
 
BaronSmoggie said:
If someone is crawling along doing 50 in the middle lane, I'm staying in my lane on their left and crusing past at 70mph. I'm not moving across three lanes to overtake them.
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I used to do the total opposite...... get close behind them but in lane one, dramatic swing out behind them in lane two and out to lane three, overtake then repeat the manoeuvre back into lane one just in front of them to hopefully give them the hint.

They're probably totally oblivious but it makes me feel better.

Now I've lived in the US for a while I'm used to driving on freeways here where there is no rule against undertaking. It allievates the problem mentioned here, but **** me, you have to have eyes in the back of your head at all times!!!
 
At least drivers are in their own metal death box which keeps them safe from the 40mph'ers and the drivers who don't indicate.

Try it on a bike when drivers are trying to scare you off the road. In some instances you actually fear for your life.

Basic manners on the roads have gone, as is giving other road users respect.
 
It's definitely deteriorated over the last few years. Not quite as bad as the Middle East yet, but getting there.

It scares me, especially when my eldest has now got a car. He's pretty careful but it's other people I worry about, Seeing that huge accident on the A1M last week just shows how it can happen to anyone. The sooner we have self-driving vehicles with fail-safe technology the better, IMO.
 
Littlejimmy said:
It's definitely deteriorated over the last few years. Not quite as bad as the Middle East yet, but getting there.

It scares me, especially when my eldest has now got a car. He's pretty careful but it's other people I worry about, Seeing that huge accident on the A1M last week just shows how it can happen to anyone. The sooner we have self-driving vehicles with fail-safe technology the better, IMO.
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If you had ever driven a Tesla with "Full self driving" in this country you would not be so keen...
 
SmallTown said:
If you had ever driven a Tesla with "Full self driving" in this country you would not be so keen...
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Closest I had was a VW Passat with adaptive cruise control. That was kind of weird. Obviously some way to go, but when every vehicle on the road is self-driving, surely the accident rate will plummet. If people still want to drive themselves, give them their own roads/circuits or something.
 
People driving too fast in residential areas really wind me up, especially where we are. The road road at the end of our street has become more like a main road as it comes off a major dual carriageway a mile from the M25 and people use it to bypass the lights and roundabout about half a mile further on. Only yesterday a young lad was hit by someone crossing the road, it's been coming for ages, thankfully he got away with a few cuts and bruises.

Locals were going mental about it last night shouting about speed bumps etc.
 
I think ^^ chevrons on the A19 lanes around the A66/Portrack interchanges would recommend traffic to keep a distance from each other, thus allowing space for incoming traffic off the A66 to zipper join?
Motorways such as the M1 have these chevrons to keep cars a safe distance apart.
 
chickenrunner said:
Attempting to join a fast moving dual carriageway by driving down the slip at 30mph .........................😖 :rolleyes:
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I have absolutely no data to back this up other than what i have witnessed, but this must be the main cause of incidents on the A19 flyover, along with the dip5hits who want to leave the A19 on the flyover and have to get into the inside lane within 2ft of the lane starting and cutting off those on the slip lane trying to join.
 
I'd happily under take every middle lane hog going (I know many do). The issue is they are probably the same people who won't use a mirror and even look for an undertaker.

I know under taking is against the law but I still look for them wherever I cross lanes. I imagine many don't. A driver daft enough to sit at 50mph in a middle lane is probably daft enough to not use mirrors or indicate.
 
Slightly different issue, but does anyone think that front indicators aren't as visible as they used to be?
Maybe a combination of them being too close to the main headlights when in the same cluster and also headlights being brighter these days and 'drowning them out'.

I'll often be sat at a junction and don't realise an oncoming car is indicating until it is pretty close.

Or it might be my eyes.
 
Rofesleg said:
Slightly different issue, but does anyone think that front indicators aren't as visible as they used to be?
Maybe a combination of them being too close to the main headlights when in the same cluster and also headlights being brighter these days and 'drowning them out'.

I'll often be sat at a junction and don't realise an oncoming car is indicating until it is pretty close.

Or it might be my eyes.
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No I think you're right, some cars certainly have harder to see indicators, as the main lights get brighter and more dynamic. I've noticed this. It's also quite car dependant. Some are still OK others near impossible, with daytime running lights and the like.
 
Here's a d*ck move not yet mentioned. Blocking exits. So you are driving along a road and the traffic comes to a stop. Do not stop blocking a road joining to your left, so that someone wanting to turn right into that side street is stuck causing traffic to back up and generally slow everyone up just so you can be 5 metres further down the road you cokkwomble.

Also entering a roundabout when you can see that the exit is full so you end up blocking the roundabout. You d*ck.
 
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