Are we now just accepting the ST price increases then?

One extra thing worth mentioning that I think always gets overlooked. These prices aren’t ever going to come down. I mean can you ever see a time when Boro says they’re dropping prices from £35 to £30 or whatever it may be? It’s just never going to happen. What happened last time we went up? We were told of the £180m fortune and all the rest of it..: and then the ticket prices were raised.

Where are we going to be in 2, 4, 8 years? £45 watch us play a second-tier game at home to Barnsley or Wrexham or Peterborough on a Tuesday night? A game which, by that time, will no doubt be on telly anyway.

It’s just so, so short-termist. They’ve wrung as much as they can out of this particular sponge imo. I did think, naively, stupidly, that a new transfer strategy *could* see further rises in ticket prices avoided but that was obviously a very foolish notion. I think they will just take you for whatever they can get. We have to face it.
Completely agree viv. If hypothetically this new footballing regulator pumped millions into the club next season you can bet your house we wouldn't see a reduction in anything. I am happy to pay the increase for my adult season card next season what i dont like is the club taking their most loyal customers for granted without even a thank you and the unjust prices for walkups. The renewals has been an unmitigated pr disaster which will cost far more to the club than anything they projected to gain from price increases.
 
Would people be interested in a charity night at the football club with a guest from the club?
I was offered that earlier in the season - all money would be donated to a charity - the Foundation, Teesside Hospice, whoever we agreed and we would get a guest from the football club.
Would this help build bridges again to the football club? Would you support it - if I asked for it again?
I know this is getting slightly away from the point of the thread - but in some ways it is central to it.
I was made the offer but got so sick of trolls and so sick of abuse I declined at the time. Would it be a good idea?
 
As soon as I received it I contacted the club and Yvonne called him and invited him down to the football club and they had a chat at the Riverside. We did the same for someone else I heard about on twitter. I think in both cases they really enjoyed the experience and felt valued.
Enjoyed the experience and felt valued? What exactly does that mean? What did they get?
 
They (Hull City) were amazingly cheap to watch in the Premier League, I think £15 for a lot of games. Hull is a low income poor area like Teesside so they got it right.
After the previous owner(Allam) came out with his daft ideas, banning people and so on they were struggling to get 10,000 in. Now the new ownership has got people back in they’re still only charging £20 (£15 some games)
 
They (Hull City) were amazingly cheap to watch in the Premier League, I think £15 for a lot of games. Hull is a low income poor area like Teesside so they got it right.
After the previous owner(Allam) came out with his daft ideas, banning people and so on they were struggling to get 10,000 in. Now the new ownership has got people back in they’re still only charging £20 (£15 some games)
Under Allam - they actually broke Premier rules by stopping concessions. Or rather most concessions - the Premier League realised that there was no actual definition of Concession as such - Hull had exploited this loophole.
 
Under Allam - they actually broke Premier rules by stopping concessions. Or rather most concessions - the Premier League realised that there was no actual definition of Concession as such - Hull had exploited this loophole.
I remember that, they got the over-60s riled up, certainly know at least one when he backed down saw a bit of premier league football for a tenner…
 
Have RF finished their protest? Is that it now in terms of representations from supporters’ groups? Are we just taking it on the chin?

There’ll surely be a drop off in sales if the proposed prices stay as they are, despite the recent, slightly more positive PR generated by concessions around junior prices and the interest free payment plan.

There’s an emerging apathy evident at home games now the playoff push is faltering, and an apparently increasing number of unused season tickets visible match my match. Not great conditions under which to impose significant price hikes!

I think it was said that like for like sales would generate an extra £400k? Presumably they’ll actually generate less total income though as sales fall away? And I know this is England and not Germany, but surely the Bayern Munich chairman’s approach would be to save £400k in a transfer negotiation, and not burden (fleece?) the fans? Not a bad shout perhaps?

Having successfully built the crowds and match day experience to a very respectable level, I fear we could be about to take a huge step backwards. How far will crowds fall, how much will the match day experience suffer?

Is there still time (need?) for the supporters’ groups to speak up and do something about it? Or will they now just sit back and let it happen?

UTB
who is this 'we'? and No you don't have to accept it, just like other things in your life you can agree or not. you can pay or not, it's up to you. That's the reality in this cost of living crisis. If you can't afford the rising petrol prices for your V8 say then you may decide to downsize to a four cylinder or give up other things to keep driving your V8.
Those are types of the decisions everybody struggling with it will have to make.
I've given up alcohol to cut costs and saving about $50 a week - that'll pay for my extra petrol!!!
 
While I wouldn’t say price is irrelevant, particularly in the cost of living crisis and I would not presume to judge any individual decision, the fact is that collectively our sales are not very price sensitive. They track league position and league direction of travel far more. The biggest trough in sales in recent years came despite several years of a price freeze because of the feeling of despair that the Strachan and Mowbray eras generated. What will I am sure once next seasons sales come through be seen as a recent peak this season happened despite a couple of very hefty increases. There will be a big reduction next year. It will almost entirely be down to the negative feelings created on the field this season. I don’t think a price freeze would have made much difference, but getting into the play-offs would have
 
I have seen the books as have you and others and the - figures certainly make for sobering reading as does the true cost of COVID to the club.
That’s not really my point. And I don’t know that Covid has affected our club anymore than any other, to justify the increase.

My personal opinion is that Gibson pushed it a nudge too far this year.
 
Not just about Riverside prices, but David Lister`s feeling of disconnect and disengagement in the modern game: having been a Boro season cardholder for 35 years......

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Just out of interest to those saying there is a disconnect between the club and the fans, why does that matter?

You are paying to watch the 11 players on the pitch. What does it matter if you feel disconnected to the ‘club’? What is ‘the club’ if it is more than wanting the players to win?
 
I will probably be banned yet again for this, but here goes.

I don't think our SC's are too expensive, I think they are realistically priced.
I also see a justification for an inflationary increase.

HOWEVER.
The EB communication and shameful drawn out responses since the initial communication in bald stark email are what has left an awful taste in my mouth.

If the club had come out and thanked SC holders for their support, expressed understanding of the economic climate, the inflationary pressures they faced, the regrettable need to increase price to keep the club competitive; together with outlining their ambitions/intentions, then they would have barely created a wave.
Had they offered the 4 month payment plan, they would have committed most people, they would then have got the money before their financial year ended and in time for the opening of the summer window.

So the pitiful communication and high handed arrogance really rankled with me.
But my objection extends to Match Day pricing, where the figures demanded are extortionate. The price of a family to randomly attend a match at The Riverside is now scandalous.
My frustration extends beyond pricing, to so very many aspects of the club's interaction with fans.
The shameful retail strategy and operation; the woeful concourse offering and service; the amateur communication and PR from the club and the attitude to any form of criticism.

The initial extension of the deadline by 2 weeks was greeted by Rob as some kind of minor miracle - such a wonderful concession...
Then RF managed to get the U18 SC for EB reduced.
They got it through threatening to protest and good on them; let's not forget, like me they were highlighting the injustice - and financial lunacy - of Gibson's initial plan.

The season has been awful and our squad is a million miles from a top 6 squad. So much fan disgruntlement can be diffused by the football on the pitch and the club status.

The Club a year ago felt so much better. A real connection between Manager, players and fans. Big away support; crowds rising towards sell outs; exciting players pulling on the shirt, playing some of the best football for years and flying towards second spot. We fell short, but there was so much goodwill and willingess to support the surely inevitable ambition about to be shown in the summer window.
A year later, the players are significantly inferior, the performances a dire contrast and that connection strained.
What a time to assumptively reach the hand out for more money, even earlier, without thanks or reason to believe.

There are 7 of us as SC holders in the West Upper.
I sat by myself against Norwich, for the third time this season. I couldn't blame the others for not coming.
Around me there were loads of missing SC holders.
There is disgruntlement and a disconnect.

Many will renew as it is ritual, routine, in our blood.
4 of the 7 of us will, but 3 of 7 won't. If that is replicated through the SC base then the number would drop from c22k to c13k, with 2k of those being free kids in the white elephant but above criticism GRFZ.
I hope that ratio doesn't happen as I don't want to sit in those 2012-14 crowds again.

Meanwhile the constant circling of the wagons around the club whatever it does is mind numbing.
There are a couple of hundred Uriah Heeps who seem wedded to being ever so 'umble.
Post of the year and by a country mile.
 
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