InglebyUTB
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Tactically pathetic from Carrick tonight thinking we could go toe to toe with Chelsea.
Disagree. We played that way for much of home leg with Coburn up there grafting but I think he lost the ball just about every single time it went near him. Chelsea are slow burners, they have struggled all season against teams that set up to be difficult to break down.
They didn’t have to break anyone down tonight cos we did it for them.
Yeah we shouldn't have botheredTactically pathetic from Carrick tonight thinking we could go toe to toe with Chelsea.
You can play matt clarke for 50 games a season your not going to turn him into a ball playing centre back he simply hasnt the footballing abilityIt’s much easier to play out from the back when you of the luxuries of…
Having any fit strikers
Having any available wingers
Having your first choice keeper
Having had any consistency in player availability in defence
Not playing against a team where multiple single players cost more than your whole squad.
As has been mentioned, it’s great when it works most weeks, but unless we stick with it we’ll never perfect it. I can barely think of two games in a row this season where we’ve had consistent players at the back, and that’s before you consider Engel, VDB, Bangura, Ayling etc… are all new to this team.
Was it pathetic from Carrick to in the first game? You still wanting him sacked?Tactically pathetic from Carrick tonight thinking we could go toe to toe with Chelsea.
For most of the game, no they didn't. The ball didn't stick, they didn't show enough and both gave it away too easily. Neither have any pace to get behind so it kept coming back. And that's not their fault, as a whole we just weren't good enough and didn't have players around them.We had no outlet? Crooks and Rogers just not exist then?
We didn’t need to win. We didn’t need an outlet to get in behind them, we needed the ball away from their billion pound strike force. To argue against that now after getting smashed 6-1 by our own mistakes is bonkers. Make a mistake up top and it means nothing. Make mistake after mistake at the back and you get smashed like we did.
We didn’t play long tonight for them to hold up anythingFor most of the game, no they didn't. The ball didn't stick, they didn't show enough and both gave it away too easily. Neither have any pace to get behind so it kept coming back. And that's not their fault, as a whole we just weren't good enough and didn't have players around them.
At the end of the day, our most expensive player, if I'm recalling correctly was Howson, bought 6 years ago for £5 million. They probably spent that in wages in the 90 minutes of the match. Over the two legs 6-2 is probably a generous score. Forget to tonight, yes it's disappointing but we need to regroup, get players back and smash the Makems
Was it pathetic from Carrick to in the first game? You still wanting him sacked?
Let’s be honest, it didn’t work in thr first game either. We got away with it repeatedly, not by design but because Chelsea inexplicably missed 3 or 4 gilt edged chances.Was it pathetic from Carrick to in the first game? You still wanting him sacked?
He didn’t go toe to toe with them in first game, he nullified them.
What I’m saying is he’s shown he can put in a top tactical display against them. Tonight he got it wrong maybe yeah. Wasn’t helped by the Jones injury. If Jones was fit then we probably would have deployed the same tactics. Hugills fault.He didn’t go toe to toe with them in first game, he nullified them.
He didn’t go toe to toe with them in first game, he nullified them.
Nail on head there!It’s much easier to play out from the back when you of the luxuries of…
Having any fit strikers
Having any available wingers
Having your first choice keeper
Having had any consistency in player availability in defence
Not playing against a team where multiple single players cost more than your whole squad.
As has been mentioned, it’s great when it works most weeks, but unless we stick with it we’ll never perfect it. I can barely think of two games in a row this season where we’ve had consistent players at the back, and that’s before you consider Engel, VDB, Bangura, Ayling etc… are all new to this team.
But we have adapted in games like this, Leicester/Villa but we were unable to as we have so many injured and so many not fit.Completely disagree. Our players will never get better to the degree needed to be able to compete with a team that cost £1bn. It's about knowing your limits and adapting to situations.
Um, no we didn’t.
Um, we did. If you think we didn’t you know nothing about football.
They went 4-2-3-1 first leg and we started 5-3-2 and changed formation several times in an attempt to nullify them, and barring a few mistakes it worked. Last 20 mins Carrick even instructed us to stop playing out from the back.
Tonight we went 4-2-3-1 vs 4-2-3-1. They have far better players so it was always going to be a disaster.