Sunak's 5 pledges

Glover_elbow said:
Cutting NHS waiting list Is just bull**** nothing about investing millions to get back the NHS back on its feet. It's not just waiting list there's far more endemic problems through 10+ years of chronic under investment
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What he really means is give more and more private contracts out to reduce the waiting lists and say 'look waiting lists have been cut by X%, aren't we great!' and then people will be so grateful that they don't have to wait as long for an appointment that they won't know or care that OUR NHS has been sold off to the highest bidding Tory Donor.
 
You can't cut NHS waiting lists without massive investment in Health and as importantly social care. The waiting list is growing because there aren't enough resources. To stop the waiting list growing needs investment, that would just be to stand still in the sorry state it is currently in. To reduce the waiting list it needs to be operating at about 150% of capacity which is impossible.

Also, pledges are meaningless. Plans and investments are what is needed, not vacuous platitudes.
 
Where is he going to get the qualified staff to fill the 40,000 vacant nursing posts and the other 60,000 posts vacant in social care and health.
Perhaps hes going to wave the magic wand and they`l all be stood there outside no.10 first thing in the morning!?
Dyck(n)
 
The only one you can measure is inflation... Something that is being driven by ridiculous fuel prices... and it was only the other day that his office was pushing to install the Fuel Duty increases that had been suspended the last few years... adding at least 12p on a litre. 🤦‍♂️

The guy is a clown and doesn't even realise what he is saying and doing
 
The Politics halfwit on Sky praised him for giving a peach full of confidence. Loads of detail on his 5 points and love the fact that he spoke at length about his family. She was either on drugs or watching a Sunak in another dimension. Turn it off as soon as she finished.
 
Noticed the three pundits on Newsnight all expect Boris to make a bid to return possibly as soon as after the May local elections.
That would give them a massive boost as their voters don't care about his past as they are all pretty selfish people who vote for the Tories anyway. Would Labour consider replacing Starmer if that happened. He not the most popular leader Labour have had,
 
Acklam_Lad said:
The only one you can measure is inflation
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Yes. He could (should) have put metrics on them, but didn't.
Not even clarifying what year they would be considered achieved, except for inflation which is set to decrease 'naturally' this year anyway, which is why he has included it. credit for doing nothing.

Still at least we've got the 20000 coppers, 50000 nurses and 40 hospitals they promised. Add to that the social care plan that Johnson revealed in 2019 and implemented in 2020 and we are golden!
 
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asredastheycome said:
Noticed the three pundits on Newsnight all expect Boris to make a bid to return possibly as soon as after the May local elections.
That would give them a massive boost as their voters don't care about his past as they are all pretty selfish people who vote for the Tories anyway. Would Labour consider replacing Starmer if that happened. He not the most popular leader Labour have had,
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Labour would love a return of Johnson. He was loosing tory safe seats before being given the bump last year. He is an electoral liability.
 
Jeebus Christ...
Pitiful.


When asked during the Q&A (see 2.44pm) whether he was promising to end all small boats crossings, or just reduce the number, Sunak said that ultimately voters would decide. He implied that what really mattered was whether people concluded he was trying his hardest.

He said:

Ultimately the country will judge … the country will be the judge of whether we as a government are straining every sinew to focus on their priorities and deliver meaningful progress and change on them.
Now, when I made a statement in parliament last month about small boats, I went out of my way to say this is not an easy problem to fix, and it’s not one that we can fix overnight and it requires lots of different things to be changed.
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Johnson stirring it from the back benches would be manna from heaven for Starmer.

I doubt that his "activities" since getting the heave-ho from Number 10 will have endeared him to his constituents either? I also doubt that he will be getting parachuted into a safe seat whilst Rishi has a say in it and he's pretty unlikely to win his current seat at the next GE.
 
Muttley said:
Johnson stirring it from the back benches would be manna from heaven for Starmer.

I doubt that his "activities" since getting the heave-ho from Number 10 will have endeared him to his constituents either? I also doubt that he will be getting parachuted into a safe seat whilst Rishi has a say in it and he's pretty unlikely to win his current seat at the next GE.
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He'll get out. But he'll do it when it's convenient to him, not his party.
 
Whilst the none life threatening waiting lists are important, the first priority and focus for the Government, should be to fix the crisis at A&E, ensure ambulances are vailable and arrive when needed for critically ill people, people are discharged in good time and people with serious conditions are prioritised for treatment. Start fixing them and now.

Then you can look at getting the rest right, unfortunately they just don't care about people enough, unless it's to make money off the back if them.
 
  • Passing new laws to stop small boats, making sure that those who come to the UK illegally are detained and swiftly removed

The obligatory Tory dog whistle for the brexiteers who are foaming at the mouth at the audacity of people drowning trying to make a better life for themselves and incandescent with rage at the French for not stopping them.
 
Corco65 said:
Whilst the none life threatening waiting lists are important, the first priority and focus for the Government, should be to fix the crisis at A&E, ensure ambulances are vailable and arrive when needed for critically ill people, people are discharged in good time and people with serious conditions are prioritised for treatment. Start fixing them and now.

Then you can look at getting the rest right, unfortunately they just don't care about people enough, unless it's to make money off the back if them.
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It's not as simple as that and the focus on individual metrics is one of the reasons we have got in this mess. The NHS is a massive inter-connected system that links heavily with the social care sector. The big waits in A&E aren't because there isn't enough A&E staff or ambulance staff (there isn't but that's another matter). The reason the queues are so big is because of the two ends of the system. Discharge to social care isn't happening because it is full. If those people weren't in hospital then patients could be admitted from A&E to the wards. If primary and social care was adequately resourced then there would be fewer people needing A&E in the 1st place. The most expensive part of the whole system is hospital care so it doesn't make sense to expand capacity in the middle as a priority when it would be cheaper and more effective to increase resources to reduce demand coming into hospital and to increase supply of care for discharges (which in turn will free up the resources in the hospital anyway).

It's not that more pay and resources in hospitals wouldn't help or aren't needed. They are, 100%, but that won't solve anything when the main problem is the demand has increased dramatically over the last 10 years. Hospitals often have the budget to adequately run services but they can't get the staff so they have to pay a premium to agency/locums which is a massively inefficient use of resources.
 
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