Sunak's 5 pledges

Whatever the Brexiteers try to claim, Brexit has played a massive part in this.

The lack of staff within social care is in huge part to do with Brexit. There is no easy fix for that lack of staff as the people just aren't available and willing to do the work. This impacts massively on the NHS and, allied to their own Brexit related staffing difficulties, means in simple terms we are screwed.
 
Nano said:
It's not as simple as that and the focus on individual metrics is one of the reasons we have got in this mess. The NHS is a massive inter-connected system that links heavily with the social care sector. The big waits in A&E aren't because there isn't enough A&E staff or ambulance staff (there isn't but that's another matter). The reason the queues are so big is because of the two ends of the system. Discharge to social care isn't happening because it is full. If those people weren't in hospital then patients could be admitted from A&E to the wards. If primary and social care was adequately resourced then there would be fewer people needing A&E in the 1st place. The most expensive part of the whole system is hospital care so it doesn't make sense to expand capacity in the middle as a priority when it would be cheaper and more effective to increase resources to reduce demand coming into hospital and to increase supply of care for discharges (which in turn will free up the resources in the hospital anyway).

It's not that more pay and resources in hospitals wouldn't help or aren't needed. They are, 100%, but that won't solve anything when the main problem is the demand has increased dramatically over the last 10 years. Hospitals often have the budget to adequately run services but they can't get the staff so they have to pay a premium to agency/locums which is a massively inefficient use of resources.
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I'm agreeing, I'm basically saying for the PM to make a major announcement about waiting lists is the wrong place to start, and people need reassurances about Emergency and priority treatment as well as access to GP's at the other end.
 
Nobby_Barnes said:
What ? I'm just saying he's trying to address the challenges the country is facing at the moment, Inflation, the economy, NHS and immigration....Do you think he should do nothing like ? Perhaps you would prefer to bury your head in the sand 👍
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Saying he’s trying to address the challenges the country faces, and actually addressing the challenges the country faces, are two entirely different things.
I expect he’ll now slink back off to the shadows to count his 100s of millions £, where he’s been hiding for the past couple of months.
 
sherlock1969 said:
Whatever the Brexiteers try to claim, Brexit has played a massive part in this.

The lack of staff within social care is in huge part to do with Brexit. There is no easy fix for that lack of staff as the people just aren't available and willing to do the work. This impacts massively on the NHS and, allied to their own Brexit related staffing difficulties, means in simple terms we are screwed.
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Reportedly 100,000 [none UK] staff in health and social care, including nurses, consultants, doctors, specialists of all kinds, healthcare workers and community carers - left UK after Brexit - And havent been replaced.
 
He does realise that all this occurred under the decades long Tory rule we had to endure. In fact rishi you were chancellor at the time.

I love how the tories reinvent themselves as though the previous regime didn’t exist.
 
Nobby_Barnes said:
What ? I'm just saying he's trying to address the challenges the country is facing at the moment, Inflation, the economy, NHS and immigration....Do you think he should do nothing like ? Perhaps you would prefer to bury your head in the sand 👍
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He is doing nothing. Just soundbites and headlines for the Mail. The maths until 18 was announced by Cameron over 10 years ago. Probably a smokescreen then as it is now.
 
Nobby_Barnes said:
What ? I'm just saying he's trying to address the challenges the country is facing at the moment, Inflation, the economy, NHS and immigration....Do you think he should do nothing like ? Perhaps you would prefer to bury your head in the sand 👍
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Inflation, can’t be tackled by any government meaningfully, especially because there are factors over which they have no control. The BoE did what it could. The same to a large extent with the economy. The office of Budget Responsibility, among others including the BoE have stated that by the end of the year inflation would be down to, guess what? The exact figures he claimed his government would bring it down to.
He’s going to claim responsibility for something that is going to happen anyway without any input from the Tories. Same with the economy. Immigration. The kind of laws he says they will enact can’t happen because they would contravene international law and be challenged continuously. The agreement with Albania will allow immediate deportation returns to that country…but what he forgot to say was that he knows there will challenges in court before it occurs.
The NHS…don’t hold your breath.
Mostly just verbal guano sprayed into the void.
 
sherlock1969 said:
Whatever the Brexiteers try to claim, Brexit has played a massive part in this.

The lack of staff within social care is in huge part to do with Brexit. There is no easy fix for that lack of staff as the people just aren't available and willing to do the work. This impacts massively on the NHS and, allied to their own Brexit related staffing difficulties, means in simple terms we are screwed.
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Brexit isn't the problem. It has just highlighted the existing problem. Yes, people from the EU would come and work here in social care but the real problem is that the wages in social care are pitiful for the work involved. There would be more people willing to work in social care if the pay was better.

As a country we try to do everything on the cheap. We shouldn't be in a race to the bottom to compete with 3rd world countries on wages. Valuable jobs should pay wages that reflects the value they provide to society. Importing a load of foreigners to do it on the cheap should not be the solution.
 
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