YouGov Poll - 33 Point lead!

festa5 said:
Is that a genuine example? F***ing staggering.

Someone will surely take that to court if it passes though on grounds of discrimination. And would surely win?
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Good Law project looked at challenging it but don't think there are any grounds to challenge its legality.

An independent review has been announced today I saw somewhere, so maybe there is a glimmer of hope.
 
Lefty said:
It would nice to see a similar repeat of all of this, wouldn't it, including some radical reforms and measures to the Left?
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It sure would. But where's the leftward pressure going to come from? You can't mean the Lib Dems. SNP?
 
Andy_W said:
So if Labour don't win, they could probably use that as a successful legal challenge and get the vote nulled, so we have to have another one.
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Does that exist? A legal mechanism to force the government to hold a new election? I'm not so sure.
 
exiledinboro said:
I worked out that the median gap when looking at the 13 main polling companies and the average Labour lead across the polling companies is currently 18.6%

And just looking at the ID requirements, attacks on trade unions and right wing press you can never write off the Tories
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I actually think these things might shift a small number around the margins, but most people long ago made up their minds and are heartily sick of these people. They aren't shifting and these things actually only increase their disgust and anger at this government.

All the Tories have is to find something they can pin Labour on, rally around and engineer an issue they can pick a fight on. Hence their continued floundering around floating woke issues to see if any of them look to have some purchase. The latest today seems to be the old 'I'm saying Happy Christmas not enjoy the festive period/happy holidays' malarkey.

The problem they are finding is that Starmer and his team have worked this out and have clearly decided to just not give them anything. Pinning Starmer down, so far, has been like nailing jelly to a wall for the Tories. The Left might not like it, as they want radical policies announced, but anticipating the Tories moves and shutting every avenue off giving them nowhere to go looks to be a bloody effective strategy.

Meanwhile the Tories themselves just keep having their own policies and incompetence and corruption to deal with. This combination of not having anything to attack, while constantly having to defend and firefight against themselves is looking fatal.

If I was Labour I would simply carry on like this until the election and even then, even if I wanted to introduce some radical changes, I'd couch them very vaguely in the manifesto.
 
TeessideCleveland said:
Margin of error, strikes hitting Labour (as I think Tories want - hence no appetite to settle), polls returning to more 'usual' lines - or something else?
Only one poll, so we'll see when others comes out if it's rogue or mainstream
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It's just Deltapoll being Deltapoll, they exclude don't knows so their polls vary all the time.
 
B_G said:
Interesting that Tories have lost 19% while Labour have only increased by 9%. A lot of those lost Tory votes going to "other parties". Does this mean Green Party are going to have a big influx of voters?
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Unlikely, it means fringe nutjobs like Reform will get votes, but not enough for seats.
 
Labour need to be taking a bigger slice of that 19%. Also a further 2% drop for Lib Dems so essentially 21% of voters there to try and win. 9% isn't enough.
 
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