YouGov Poll - 33 Point lead!

exiledinboro

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Yes. Let's go Reform party!!
Richard Tice was on Choppers politics and said he plans to have an MP in every seat outside of Northern Ireland, at the next election

The point he was pushing was the Tories have to be destroyed and he will target the red wall seats and specifically those currently held by the Tories

Sounds like it is a deliberate attempt to take Tory seats and will split the Tory vote

Tice is going to stand in Hartlepool

I’ll admit the Tories are in massive trouble now. I don’t think they can go on the defensive and be proud of any of their record in government so I can only see them going on the offensive
 

Lefty

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It's all about taking the Tories further to the Right. They saw how the strategy worked with UKIP. They know Labour will have a mess to sort and won't be in power for ever regardless.

You'd think they would be happy with how far to the Right they have pushed the Tories already, but no these people are never satisfied, nor reflective on how their ideology leads to terrible things.
 

Redwurzel

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One prediction above, has the Outer Hebrides going to Labour - they only got 28% last time out there and SNP got 45%

My self I think the 45% for SNP is fixed in Scotland and Scotland wil make it difficult for Labour to win an overall Majority in the UK. In the Blair years Scotland was a Labour Stronghold. There are 59 seats in Scotland. All the redwall seat were Labour in the Blair years, I can see over 50% coming back to Labour, but not all of them.
 

Laughing

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One prediction above, has the Outer Hebrides going to Labour - they only got 28% last time out there and SNP got 45%

My self I think the 45% for SNP is fixed in Scotland and Scotland wil make it difficult for Labour to win an overall Majority in the UK. In the Blair years Scotland was a Labour Stronghold. There are 59 seats in Scotland. All the redwall seat were Labour in the Blair years, I can see over 50% coming back to Labour, but not all of them.
I think you are right but the SNP may loose votes standing on a single policy of independence.
 

BiggEggo

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What happens when the tory party falls below 20%, basically become a minority party?
It might have broke itself, terminally with a bit of luck.
Good to see Deform doing well in Chester, obviously onto a winner😉
 

BoroMart

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It's all about taking the Tories further to the Right. They saw how the strategy worked with UKIP. They know Labour will have a mess to sort and won't be in power for ever regardless.

You'd think they would be happy with how far to the Right they have pushed the Tories already, but no these people are never satisfied, nor reflective on how their ideology leads to terrible things.
UKIP obviously were effectively a one policy party, Reform can't be that and that's where they will hopefully find trouble gaining any real support above 10%, and hopefully single figure % which will be an optic to keep them as a minority fringe party. at the next election Enough to fragment the Tory vote, but not enough to gain any heavy traction, because this is effectively how the Nazi's started, as a reformist party to bring down the old parties.

I expect that when Labour get in Richard Tice and bunch of b'stards will bombard media on their perceived failures. It will be a constant, death by a thousand cuts approach, heavily funded, and relentless, in an attempt to discredit them, blame them for the mess the Tories have made, and gain more traction. Labour have to be ready for that and have a good PR campaign, pay investigative journalists to understand how they work, and what they are doing and discredit them. We can't ignore Reform, and for all I hate the Tories, we have to hope they get enough act together enough to keep the moderate right from moving to reform.
 

Lefty

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UKIP might have been all about Brexit, but Brexit was merely a gateway to many right wing policies and I think most Conservatives knew this.
 
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