Colin Warnek
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Eh? What was the point of the report then?That's the problem. Neither are recommended. It's you that made up the nonsense.
Eh? What was the point of the report then?That's the problem. Neither are recommended. It's you that made up the nonsense.
Completely agree. They’ve had donkeys years of austerity imposed by Cameron and Osbourne, the sheer incompetence of the May government and now this rabble. And they still can’t lay a glove on them.Biggest concern for Labour? Trailing by 5 points in the polls. They should be 15% plus ahead . Tories must be laughing and feeling it doesn’t matter how bad they are. Labour are deemed to be worse..Sobering thought
Someone might read it and not say it said something it didn't.Eh? What was the point of the report then?
Yes. The church's disestablishment I.e. the abolition of its official status as state church.Colin, do you know what the word "disestablishment" means in the sentence "The disestablishment of the Church of England"?
I suspect you do not.
Why does the state need a church?Yes. The church's disestablishment I.e. the abolition of its official status as state church.
It’s a very sorry situation if the best a once great party can hope for is getting into bed with the party that colluded with the Tories on austerity.A long way to go until the next election. There are huge hurdles for the Tories to get over with an economy that is in utter tatters due to their incompetence and covid. If they manage to get it going again and deal with the Brexit issues that are currently huge then they'll win comfortably again- however it won't be 80 seats. It'll more than likely be a Labour/Lib/SNP coalition if the economy completely tanks and they get it wrong with taxation and spending over the next couple of years.
I suspect that on this particular subject you don't know what you're talking about. Can't be asred with the rest of it.Yes. The church's disestablishment I.e. the abolition of its official status as state church.
A separate argument. My question is why the Labour party would assume that the abolition of a state church and the associated constitutional reform not seen in centuries would be a vote winner, and not the kind of extreme policy which scares voters away.Why does the state need a church?
Perhaps it'll be replaced by the Church of Wales as the state church. Seems fair. And Wales needs to be represented in the union jack.A separate argument. My question is why the Labour party would assume that the abolition of a state church and the associated constitutional reform not seen in centuries would be a vote winner, and not the kind of extreme policy which scares voters away.
The majority of voters will behave like sheep. Instead of acting the sheepdog with its policies, the Labour Party alienates the sheep. Which will do nothing but push them further and further to the fringe at election time.This thread is a great example of how the right wing media herd the sheep.
Thats not what I said though is it?Jam, give over. The political leanings of the majority on here are not influenced by right wing press. You should know that - you’re part of that group!
The word has been deliberately misrepresented as if the Labour Party was proposing abolishing the CofE. Instead the proposal would be most obvious in removing the CofE from the House of Lords. It would also remove the bias against other religions and make the state truly secular. Or at least a start towards it.The majority of voters will behave like sheep. Instead of acting the sheepdog with its policies, the Labour Party alienates the sheep. Which will do nothing but push them further and further to the fringe at election time.
Bless, as if...If the Tories do a good job Levelling up
I’m convinced they will. They know if they do that’s Labour screwed for donkeys years. If they want to win the next election which they probs will then they need to keep those lent votes onside. Pains me to say it but I think they’ll do whatever is Needed to make this happen. Labour are ****ed. They’ve lost their identity completelyThe word has been deliberately misrepresented as if the Labour Party was proposing abolishing the CofE. Instead the proposal would be most obvious in removing the CofE from the House of Lords. It would also remove the bias against other religions and make the state truly secular. Or at least a start towards it.
It is the same tactic used by the Right Wing press if Labour proposed punitive death taxes to reduce the way in which wealth and privilege is preserved amongst the "Moneyed Elite" there would be articles on how Aunty May would lose out when she tried to pass her suburban semidetached in Wilmslow to Arthur and Barbara.
Bless, as if...
Before and during the last election they were too busy attacking Labour.That’s essentially the more stories the guardian prints attacking the tories the better they are doing